Wolves/Lakers GDT...LST a game-time decision

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longstrangetrip wrote:This must have been a fun one to watch...the box score shows a lot of great performances from our starters (except KAT), and a poor night from our reserves. It seems like Thibs reverted to the old Thibs who can't trust his reserves...too bad, because he hadn't done that much this year. Yes, the bench played poorly, but then again as I have pointed out, reserves always do when they aren't given enough minutes. And of course the other old pattern happened again last night, with tired starters not able to run down loose balls, make shots, or defend against a more rested team. Come on Thibs...look at your own box scores and learn.


This board seems to be letting Butler's unattractive personality get in the way of objectively talking about his performance. I read through the thread and assumed that he must not have been very good tonight, but then I see that he went an efficient 24-5-5 with 3 steals...not a bad night. Butler may be a jackass, but he is having a terrific season. 22-5-4 with almost 2 1/2 steals per game, and a (by far) team-leading PER of 24.5. Yes, he has to go, but let's acknowledge what he is doing while he is here.


I think a lot of it is he is giving no F on defense. There was so many possessions last night where he just didn't try at all.

Ya he is putting up good numbers but he is killing the flow of the game. We had numerous no pass possessions when he was on the court.

At the end of the game he was also snipping at KAT again.

He is a damn good player no doubt but I think it says something that butler has the worst net rating on the team this year going into last night (might still have it just haven't looked yet)
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kekgeek1 wrote:
longstrangetrip wrote:This must have been a fun one to watch...the box score shows a lot of great performances from our starters (except KAT), and a poor night from our reserves. It seems like Thibs reverted to the old Thibs who can't trust his reserves...too bad, because he hadn't done that much this year. Yes, the bench played poorly, but then again as I have pointed out, reserves always do when they aren't given enough minutes. And of course the other old pattern happened again last night, with tired starters not able to run down loose balls, make shots, or defend against a more rested team. Come on Thibs...look at your own box scores and learn.


This board seems to be letting Butler's unattractive personality get in the way of objectively talking about his performance. I read through the thread and assumed that he must not have been very good tonight, but then I see that he went an efficient 24-5-5 with 3 steals...not a bad night. Butler may be a jackass, but he is having a terrific season. 22-5-4 with almost 2 1/2 steals per game, and a (by far) team-leading PER of 24.5. Yes, he has to go, but let's acknowledge what he is doing while he is here.


I think a lot of it is he is giving no F on defense. There was so many possessions last night where he just didn't try at all.

Ya he is putting up good numbers but he is killing the flow of the game. We had numerous no pass possessions when he was on the court.

At the end of the game he was also snipping at KAT again.

He is a damn good player no doubt but I think it says something that butler has the worst net rating on the team this year going into last night (might still have it just haven't looked yet)

His defensive rating on basketball-reference is the worst of his career, so your eye test has merit. On the other hand, his steals rate are at an all-time high. It's a unfortunate situation to say the least when your best player want out.
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kekgeek1 wrote:
crazy-canuck wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:Wiggins and Towns really let the team down tonight. They needed to produce in the second half, but failed. Towns looked tired as evidenced by his three-pointers hitting the front of the rim in the fourth quarter. Towns should have been posting up Kuzma far more than he did tonight.

Paul Pierce is making some great points in the post game. Paul said there's something wrong when the Wolves lose by just a few points and Towns has the 4th most touches on the team and isn't getting or commanding the ball in the post. Maybe it's Towns' fault. But a good head coach would tell Towns to post up Kuzma every time and tell the rest of the team to feed him in the post every single possession. This just isn't working. This was the game the Wolves absolutely should have won. Towns has to toughen up and Thibs has to go.


I just don't think kat and wiggins are involved much in the 2h. I think it's tough to get into a rythm for them sometimes.

Imo, jimmy is the one that let the team down this game, not those 2.


I think we tried to get Kat going but he just failed in this game. But mark jackson made a good point we posted Kat up when Chandler was on him not Kuzma in the 2nd half. But Kat has to make his open 3s late, he has been terrible at that all year



THIS.

I only watched the second half with my hiatus abandoned last game... and a fresh new outlook on basketball life with the weight of bated Wiggins hope lifted off my chest...

KAT didn't get the ball with the undersized (and poor defender) Kuzma on him. Or even with James on him. But he does get post ups with the larger, stronger, SAVVIER Tyson Chandler on him. Multiple times. Is that on the player... or the coaches? I don't know.

It's so mind-numbingly stupid... but at the same time... completely expected.

woe.
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longstrangetrip wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:
longstrangetrip wrote:This must have been a fun one to watch...the box score shows a lot of great performances from our starters (except KAT), and a poor night from our reserves. It seems like Thibs reverted to the old Thibs who can't trust his reserves...too bad, because he hadn't done that much this year. Yes, the bench played poorly, but then again as I have pointed out, reserves always do when they aren't given enough minutes. And of course the other old pattern happened again last night, with tired starters not able to run down loose balls, make shots, or defend against a more rested team. Come on Thibs...look at your own box scores and learn.


This board seems to be letting Butler's unattractive personality get in the way of objectively talking about his performance. I read through the thread and assumed that he must not have been very good tonight, but then I see that he went an efficient 24-5-5 with 3 steals...not a bad night. Butler may be a jackass, but he is having a terrific season. 22-5-4 with almost 2 1/2 steals per game, and a (by far) team-leading PER of 24.5. Yes, he has to go, but let's acknowledge what he is doing while he is here.


I think a lot of it is he is giving no F on defense. There was so many possessions last night where he just didn't try at all.

Ya he is putting up good numbers but he is killing the flow of the game. We had numerous no pass possessions when he was on the court.

At the end of the game he was also snipping at KAT again.

He is a damn good player no doubt but I think it says something that butler has the worst net rating on the team this year going into last night (might still have it just haven't looked yet)

His defensive rating on basketball-reference is the worst of his career, so your eye test has merit. On the other hand, his steals rate are at an all-time high. It's a unfortunate situation to say the least when your best player want out.


Steal rate doesnt surprise me. Hes been hanging his teammates out to dry when he's been hunting for steals. He did that a few times last night that resulted in the lakers scoring.
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Do you guys like this stat

Teams going into last night that hit 20 3s in a game where 34 and 1 in NBA history. Well the wolves lost last night.
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It was refreshing to hear the national broadcast team as it relates to Jimmy. In particular was the conversation where they discussed how Jimmy the teammate would not stand for what Jimmy the player was doing this year. They said he would have a big problem with himself. This speaks to the special kind of fraud Butler is. Happy it's not just us who notice.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:It was refreshing to hear the national broadcast team as it relates to Jimmy. In particular was the conversation where they discussed how Jimmy the teammate would not stand for what Jimmy the player was doing this year. They said he would have a big problem with himself. This speaks to the special kind of fraud Butler is. Happy it's not just us who notice.


Yeah. It's a disaster. If some team is crazy enough to give him 5/190 I pity that run for them. He's killed 2 teams now with his insanity.
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just finished watching the game. I haven't been that pissed at the Officials at the end of a game in a while. Tyson Chandler had like 4 fouls in the last few seconds and none of them were called.
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monsterpile wrote:just finished watching the game. I haven't been that pissed at the Officials at the end of a game in a while. Tyson Chandler had like 4 fouls in the last few seconds and none of them were called.



That's why he's there. He's a savvy vet who knows what he can get away with... get away with it once... do it again.

If they still don't call it... do it again! And again!

To be fair, it helps when you're playing for a huge-market team with the world's most famous player in a close nationally televised game at home.
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Jimmy continuing his hard work.

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