POST LOTTERY DRAFT THREAD

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Wait Towns thinks KG would be a great mentor? Too bad mentorship has no impact on players.

Wait, doesn't he actually have to be on our team to actually be mentored?

KG's Magical Mentoring Potion© is so good, one only has to anticipate it's application in order to benefit. It's a miracle!

I know you're just having fun with some of us who believe that KG is a good mentor for young big men, q, but I'm going to give a serious answer anyway. Towns obviously isn't saying he HAS been mentored by KG...he's only saying he believes it would be beneficial to be mentored by him. At some point in time doesn't the continual mention by different players of KG's mentoring provide some evidence that maybe he just might be a good mentor? After all, we never hear of guys like Kevin Love or Demarcus Cousins mentioned as being good mentors. Maybe there is something to this KG mentoring narrative. The fact is that some guys make their teammates and teams better, and some are only good for putting up individual stats. I'm glad Flip traded for one of the guys who other NBA players put in the first category.

A few points:

- I didn't see one iota of KG's mentoring having any impact whatsoever on the bigs we had last season. Now to be fair, the sample size was fairly small and improvement can take time, but the immediate results were....non-existent.

- KG's one foot out the door/one foot in the door is off-putting to me. He can't play back-to-backs. He can't play more than 20 MPG. He was M.I.A. for a number of games last season when "hurt". It just left a bad taste in my mouth.

- He's occupying a roster spot and a salary. Both hold value to us. I'm not thrilled having a quarter-time player occupy one of those spots. Now if he indeed takes the vet minimum or something close to it, I can be convinced.

- He's not getting any younger. His playing time, injury, and productivity issues are only going to get worse, not better. And the degradation tends to accelerate at his age. It's not like going from 29 to 30 or 32 to 33.

The alternative was we could have simply hired him as an assistant coach or player development consultant.

[TRKO [enjin:12664595]]

I think the Knicks may go Winslow over Mudiay. Mudiay isn't a fit for the triangle. I think the Knicks and Kings make good trade partners, because Mudiay is the exact PG Karl wants. Maybe Phil adjusts his system. Who knows.

[Lipoli390]

Wait Towns thinks KG would be a great mentor? Too bad mentorship has no impact on players.

Wait, doesn't he actually have to be on our team to actually be mentored?

KG's Magical Mentoring Potion© is so good, one only has to anticipate it's application in order to benefit. It's a miracle!

I know you're just having fun with some of us who believe that KG is a good mentor for young big men, q, but I'm going to give a serious answer anyway. Towns obviously isn't saying he HAS been mentored by KG...he's only saying he believes it would be beneficial to be mentored by him. At some point in time doesn't the continual mention by different players of KG's mentoring provide some evidence that maybe he just might be a good mentor? After all, we never hear of guys like Kevin Love or Demarcus Cousins mentioned as being good mentors. Maybe there is something to this KG mentoring narrative. The fact is that some guys make their teammates and teams better, and some are only good for putting up individual stats. I'm glad Flip traded for one of the guys who other NBA players put in the first category.

A few points:

- I didn't see one iota of KG's mentoring having any impact whatsoever on the bigs we had last season. Now to be fair, the sample size was fairly small and improvement can take time, but the immediate results were....non-existent.

- KG's one foot out the door/one foot in the door is off-putting to me. He can't play back-to-backs. He can't play more than 20 MPG. He was M.I.A. for a number of games last season when "hurt". It just left a bad taste in my mouth.

- He's occupying a roster spot and a salary. Both hold value to us. I'm not thrilled having a quarter-time player occupy one of those spots. Now if he indeed takes the vet minimum or something close to it, I can be convinced.

- He's not getting any younger. His playing time, injury, and productivity issues are only going to get worse, not better. And the degradation tends to accelerate at his age. It's not like going from 29 to 30 or 32 to 33.

The alternative was we could have simply hired him as an assistant coach or player development consultant.

I hear you Q. But I don't think last season was indicative of what we'll get from KG next season as a player. Flip obviously held him out as part of a passive tank strategy. Flip said he expects KG to play 20-25 minutes a game and so do I. Flip might hold him out of most back-to-backs, but that's fine. And based on the few games he played last season, he made a significantly positive contribution as a player on the court. As for mentoring, you should read the oral history on KG that came out this week. Reading those testimonials should leave no doubt that KG will likely have a positive impact on at least some of our young guys in practice, on bench and in the locker room.

[worldK]

I think the Knicks may go Winslow over Mudiay. Mudiay isn't a fit for the triangle. I think the Knicks and Kings make good trade partners, because Mudiay is the exact PG Karl wants. Maybe Phil adjusts his system. Who knows.

I agree with this. The knicks and kings are ideal trade partners.

[Coolbreeze44]

Wait Towns thinks KG would be a great mentor? Too bad mentorship has no impact on players.

Wait, doesn't he actually have to be on our team to actually be mentored?

KG's Magical Mentoring Potion© is so good, one only has to anticipate it's application in order to benefit. It's a miracle!

I know you're just having fun with some of us who believe that KG is a good mentor for young big men, q, but I'm going to give a serious answer anyway. Towns obviously isn't saying he HAS been mentored by KG...he's only saying he believes it would be beneficial to be mentored by him. At some point in time doesn't the continual mention by different players of KG's mentoring provide some evidence that maybe he just might be a good mentor? After all, we never hear of guys like Kevin Love or Demarcus Cousins mentioned as being good mentors. Maybe there is something to this KG mentoring narrative. The fact is that some guys make their teammates and teams better, and some are only good for putting up individual stats. I'm glad Flip traded for one of the guys who other NBA players put in the first category.

A few points:

- I didn't see one iota of KG's mentoring having any impact whatsoever on the bigs we had last season. Now to be fair, the sample size was fairly small and improvement can take time, but the immediate results were....non-existent.

- KG's one foot out the door/one foot in the door is off-putting to me. He can't play back-to-backs. He can't play more than 20 MPG. He was M.I.A. for a number of games last season when "hurt". It just left a bad taste in my mouth.

- He's occupying a roster spot and a salary. Both hold value to us. I'm not thrilled having a quarter-time player occupy one of those spots. Now if he indeed takes the vet minimum or something close to it, I can be convinced.

- He's not getting any younger. His playing time, injury, and productivity issues are only going to get worse, not better. And the degradation tends to accelerate at his age. It's not like going from 29 to 30 or 32 to 33.

The alternative was we could have simply hired him as an assistant coach or player development consultant.

I agree with all these points Q. You nailed it.

[mrhockey89]

Q- Cart or the horse? Chicken or the egg? Did KG not help the young bigs get better or do they just not have the skills/basketball IQ/take to coaching well enough to learn from KG? Word is Towns is extremely coachable, clearly has a nice basketball IQ and skill set.

Like Q said, Flip had the Wolves in full tank mode..probably had more impact than KGs injury. When KG was on the floor he was our best big. That alone should make him worth more than the vets minimum. I don't see him making $7+ million or anything like that, but you can't pay him like he's a negative asset (you know, like most of our bigs). Are you really concerned about him locking up a roster spot? Taking it from who? A guy we could get on the end of our bench anyway if KG got injured and we got an injury exemption?

KG isn't going to coach, he has laughed at that suggestion in the past (see his presser after the Wolves traded for him) and said he's way too competitive for that.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Let's not forget that KG was a late acquisition and our team wasn't practicing while he was here. There's not a lot you can do to mentor young players with only game time especially when you spend your time either away from the facilities or rehabbing (be it real or for show at times). Most of the mentoring impact will come during practice and be reinforced during games.

[TRKO [enjin:12664595]]

I would love to have Jordan Mickey at 31. Too bad we are jam packed at PF.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I would love to have Jordan Mickey at 31. Too bad we are jam packed at PF.

As far as I'm concerned, Bennett and Payne have zero impact on who I do or do not draft at this point. Flip's likely to factor in Payne, but I'd bet that he doesn't give two shits about Benett.

[TRKO [enjin:12664595]]

I would love to have Jordan Mickey at 31. Too bad we are jam packed at PF.

As far as I'm concerned, Bennett and Payne have zero impact on who I do or do not draft at this point. Flip's likely to factor in Payne, but I'd bet that he doesn't give two shits about Benett.

I would let either affect me either, but Flip did trade a first for Payne, so he may not write him off yet. I know Mickey is short, but he has long arms and does the gritty things I look for in a PF.

I would like to package my two seconds and move up though.