Re: East Conference Playoffs Thread
Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 9:56 pm
Hahaha, I am, and it isBloopOracle wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:55 pm PEAK cinema, if you are a Jimmy Butler hater this is your magnum opus
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Hahaha, I am, and it isBloopOracle wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:55 pm PEAK cinema, if you are a Jimmy Butler hater this is your magnum opus
Q - Seriously, that’s not fair to KAT. Look back at how KAT performed in the playoffs last season. Jaylen Brown’s performance in this year’s series against the Heat is more comparable to DLO than KAT. And let’s also remember that KAT didn’t have anything close to the talent around him last season that Brown had around him this year. KAT has apparently become a punching bag for the frustrations of Wolves fans and it’s time dial it back a bit.
Well, I agree that Brown had a really bad Miami series, but I think if you look at their overall body of work as playoff players, Brown has had more success than KAT not just as a team, but as an individual. And he's still not a good enough #2.Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 8:36 amQ - Seriously, that’s not fair to KAT. Look back at how KAT performed in the playoffs last season. Jaylen Brown’s performance in this year’s series against the Heat is more comparable to DLO than KAT. And let’s also remember that KAT didn’t have anything close to the talent around him last season that Brown had around him this year. KAT has apparently become a punching bag for the frustrations of Wolves fans and it’s time dial it back a bit.
We can all agree that KAT is not a #1 on a championship contender. But I’ll note that Jokic is the only NBA center today who clearly fills that role. As we’ve seen over the past few years not even Embiid lives up to that role on his team. We all saw how he performed against the Celtics this year. Giannis is the only other “big” in today’s NBA who fits the bill as a #1 on a championship contender is Giannis, but he’s a forward and I would argue more of a SF than PF. Over the entire history of the NBA, the list of centers who could credibly be viewed as the best players on their respective championship finals team is really small.
KAT has plenty of flaws like all NBA players, even all-stars, but I’d take him in a nanosecond over Brown as my #2.
KAT’s sample size is pretty small as you noted in another thread. But I have to agree with you that KAT has to do better in the playoffs if this team is going to advance. I’ll finish with a ray of hope by noting that he played better in last year’s playoffs than he did in his previous playoff stint. He’s amazingly consistent game to game in the regular season. He needs to extend that consistency to the playoffs. I think he can and will, but it’s fair to have doubts.Q-is-here wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 9:03 amWell, I agree that Brown had a really bad Miami series, but I think if you look at their overall body of work as playoff players, Brown has had more success than KAT not just as a team, but as an individual. And he's still not a good enough #2.Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 8:36 amQ - Seriously, that’s not fair to KAT. Look back at how KAT performed in the playoffs last season. Jaylen Brown’s performance in this year’s series against the Heat is more comparable to DLO than KAT. And let’s also remember that KAT didn’t have anything close to the talent around him last season that Brown had around him this year. KAT has apparently become a punching bag for the frustrations of Wolves fans and it’s time dial it back a bit.
We can all agree that KAT is not a #1 on a championship contender. But I’ll note that Jokic is the only NBA center today who clearly fills that role. As we’ve seen over the past few years not even Embiid lives up to that role on his team. We all saw how he performed against the Celtics this year. Giannis is the only other “big” in today’s NBA who fits the bill as a #1 on a championship contender is Giannis, but he’s a forward and I would argue more of a SF than PF. Over the entire history of the NBA, the list of centers who could credibly be viewed as the best players on their respective championship finals team is really small.
KAT has plenty of flaws like all NBA players, even all-stars, but I’d take him in a nanosecond over Brown as my #2.
Bottom line is if we keep KAT around, he simply has to do better in the playoffs.
Whoa, that would have been some serious winnings!kekgeek wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 9:09 am I feel so bad for my buddy last night. Celtics win and my buddy would have been the favorite to win 100k in underdog fantasy nba playoff contest. He would have had 9 of his 10 guys he drafted in the finals now he only has 5. (He will still win good money but not life changing)