It's time to move on from DLO....

[KG4Ever]

I agree that Fultz doesn't have any trade value. He's only worth a flyer similar to Dennis Smith when his contract is near the minimum. He can be cut and I think he's only guaranteed 2 million after next season. So I think Fultz is a minor negative and Isaac is a mixed bag who has shown be a good player when healthy, so its really a gamble on his injury history. I think after next season, Isaac could be bought out for $7.6 million. I think I'd only do the deal if the Wolves medical staff feels Isaac is ready to play without the lingering effects of his past injuries. I'd certainly want some draft compensation added to offset the risk of $9.6 million in salary being on the books past next season. Since Orlando is rebuilding, I don't see them likely to want DLO and so they might as well hold onto Isaac and Fultz and hope for the best.

[Monster]

I agree that Fultz doesn't have any trade value. He's only worth a flyer similar to Dennis Smith when his contract is near the minimum. He can be cut and I think he's only guaranteed 2 million after next season. So I think Fultz is a minor negative and Isaac is a mixed bag who has shown be a good player when healthy, so its really a gamble on his injury history. I think after next season, Isaac could be bought out for $7.6 million. I think I'd only do the deal if the Wolves medical staff feels Isaac is ready to play without the lingering effects of his past injuries. I'd certainly want some draft compensation added to offset the risk of $9.6 million in salary being on the books past next season.

Good info on the Fultz contract. That means I would easily do that deal but...Orlando was never going to do it and they for sure won't if they can walk away from Fultz after this year. Orlando seems like a possible trade partner and now Fultz is a guy I have more interest in like you said basically taking a flyer on him.

[Lipoli390]

Minnesota: D'Angelo Russell
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Dallas: Tim Hardaway Jr., Maxi Kleber

Los Angeles: Marcus Morris, Luke Kennard

New York: Evan Fournier, Nerlens Noel

Orlando: Jonathan Isaac, Markelle Fultz

Washington: Kyle Kuzma, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope

Which of these deals are you pulling the trigger on? Select all that apply and explain why. Also consider that every offer here includes at least one player that has at least one additional year of salary on their current deal. These are the kinds of offers that I would expect to be out there for Russell if Minnesota were to explore trading him.

The only one I'd consider would be the Orlando deal. But I wouldn't do it because of the physical health risks associated with both Isaac and Fultz. I'd do the Washington deal if it also involved swapping our #19 and 48 for #10.

I personally don't think there's going to be much of a difference in the quality of prospect available at 10 versus 19 in this particular class, Lip. I know you have your eyes on Dyson Daniels, though. I wouldn't agree to that trade or any of the ones mentioned above. I feel like it'd be an unnecessary step back. I did want to show the kind of offers that might be out there and how they're probably not all that appealing.

Cam - I think you accurately captured the types of deals realistically possible for DLO. I think my suggested deal with the pick swaps is also realistic, but somewhat less so than the ones you postulated. I hear where you're coming from on my proposed deal. I'll confess I'm motivated entirely by my man-crush on Dyson Daniels. I think it's a rational, educated man-crush, but it's admittedly a leap of faith. Honestly, it's hard for me so see a viable deal for DLO that makes sense for the Wolves right now.

[Lipoli390]

How about fix the Lakers give them DLO & Beasley for Westbrook and three 1sts unprotected.

Sounds good in theory, TU. But the Lakers don't have three 1st-round picks to give us. They've already given most of them away and the only one they can trade is their pick in 2027.

[Lipoli390]

I love the Washington angle.

1) I think both guys would make this team better.
2) Both have imminently movable contracts. $13M for Kuzma, $14M expiring for Caldwell-Pope)

I dig the Washington angle.

1) I think both guys would make this team better.
2) Both have imminently movable contracts. $13M for Kuzma, $14M expiring for Caldwell-Pope)

I think it's the least objectionable option especially in terms of salary. I personally don't think Washington would do this deal. Good point about Kuzma and KCP being moveable players. KCP would be a nice trade chip to make another deal.

Agreed. No chance Washington does the deal.

I disagree. I think Washington would do that deal in a heartbeat. They desperately need a good PG and they have a closing window of opportunity with Beal. Pairing DLO with Beal, Porzingis and there other guys would be a significant boost for a team that didn't miss the playoffs by much this past season. DLO is a very good PG who is still only 26 years old. He'll be in a contract year, which should bring out the best in him.

[Tactical unit]

How about fix the Lakers give them DLO & Beasley for Westbrook and three 1sts unprotected.

Sounds good in theory, TU. But the Lakers don't have three 1st-round picks to give us. They've already given most of them away and the only one they can trade is their pick in 2027.

Lakers Picks below - I think you could make it happen. I honestly don't care what year the picks are, getting 3 unprotected 1sts from a team that's success hinges on Lebron James at his age and in the last year of his deal, would be a savvy move. Unloading Westbrook would probably cost around a 1st and then DLO & Beasley probably each worth a 1st so all together I see it as fair value. Lakers getting two excellent shooters would make them contenders with James & Davis. MN might even get better with Westbrook as an upgrade defensively and Nowell able to score on more levels than Beasley. The main reason though is to stack the future and or have assets to obtain a big name down the road. LA has to be all in right now, I think they should be the main target to load up on draft picks and MN has plenty of talent to make it happen.

2023 NBA Draft
First round: Pelicans have the right to swap picks (Anthony Davis trade in 2019)
Second round: Own
2024 NBA Draft
First round: Owned by Pelicans and have the rights to receive 2025 pick instead (Anthony Davis trade in 2019)
Second round: Own
2025 NBA Draft
First round: Own but Pelicans have the rights to this pick if they forego 2024 pick (Anthony Davis trade in 2019)
Second round: Own
2026 NBA Draft
First round: Own
Second round: Own
2027 NBA Draft
First round: Own
Second round: Own
2028 NBA Draft
First round: Own
Second round: Own
2029 NBA Draft
First round: Own
Second round: Own
2030 NBA Draft
First round: Own
Second round: Own

[Lipoli390]

Because of the rule that a team can't trade a 1st-round pick two years in a row, they can't trade any of their 1st-round picks before 2027. If you're looking for three unprotected first-round picks, it would at best have to be their 2027, 2029 and 2031 picks. The Wolves might be in Nashville by then. :)

[Tactical unit]

Because of the rule that a team can't trade a 1st-round pick two years in a row, they can't trade any of their 1st-round picks before 2027. If you're looking for three unprotected first-round picks, it would at best have to be their 2027, 2029 and 2031 picks. The Wolves might be in Nashville by then. :)

So you can't trade for 2023 (Pelicans retain swap rights), 2025 (You get 2024 if Pelicans swap for the 2025 pick), 2027

I would think that would be allowed but I am not familiar with the nuances.

[Tactical unit]

I love the Washington angle.

1) I think both guys would make this team better.
2) Both have imminently movable contracts. $13M for Kuzma, $14M expiring for Caldwell-Pope)

I dig the Washington angle.

1) I think both guys would make this team better.
2) Both have imminently movable contracts. $13M for Kuzma, $14M expiring for Caldwell-Pope)

I think it's the least objectionable option especially in terms of salary. I personally don't think Washington would do this deal. Good point about Kuzma and KCP being moveable players. KCP would be a nice trade chip to make another deal.

Agreed. No chance Washington does the deal.

I disagree. I think Washington would do that deal in a heartbeat. They desperately need a good PG and they have a closing window of opportunity with Beal. Pairing DLO with Beal, Porzingis and there other guys would be a significant boost for a team that didn't miss the playoffs by much this past season. DLO is a very good PG who is still only 26 years old. He'll be in a contract year, which should bring out the best in him.

I think you could make it work even with Lip's move from #19 to #10 might have to add a Naz, Nowell, Bolmaro or leave off KCP to make it work but I feel MN has the assets to make such a trade possible. Kuzma about as good a defender as V8? I know he has way more of an offensive game but slightly less of a rebounder. I kinda question the Kuzma fit or how it's much of an upgrade over V8?

[Monster]

Because of the rule that a team can't trade a 1st-round pick two years in a row, they can't trade any of their 1st-round picks before 2027. If you're looking for three unprotected first-round picks, it would at best have to be their 2027, 2029 and 2031 picks. The Wolves might be in Nashville by then. :)

So you can't trade for 2023 (Pelicans retain swap rights), 2025 (You get 2024 if Pelicans swap for the 2025 pick), 2027

I would think that would be allowed but I am not familiar with the nuances.

Theoretically if the Wolves actually got 3 first round picks for taking on Westbrook (won't happen the Lakers aren't that stupid) I would be fine with just waiving the guy. I think brining Westbrook here would not be a good idea. Maybe in this dream scenario we can trade him back to Houston for John Wall. Lol