Giannis Trade Discussion

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Lipoli390 wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 9:30 pm
WildWolf2813 wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 8:09 pm from what I've gathered, the reason why we're considered still in it is because Milwaukee really likes our offer. However, it's up to Giannis and he might not wanna re-sign with us.

Sounds exactly like what happened last year with KD.

If this happens for the 2nd straight summer with one of the best players in the league, we can seriously question whether big time players do wanna play alongside Ant in Minnesota.
The fact that the Bucks really like the Wolves offer is what scares me and has me hoping Giannis says no just as Durant did last season. Durant saved Tim Connelly from himself. Durant went to Houston and they had the same record as the year before even with the maturation of their young players. Meanwhile, the Suns were much better without Durant.

I’m hoping reports that the Bucks love the Wolves offer are untrue because I want to believe in Tim Connelly in spite of his overpay for Rudy that depleted our draft coffers and put us in cap hell and in spite of TC’s repeated swings and misses in the draft, including his trade up for Rob Dillingham.
What reports that MIL likes the MIN offer?
All I have seen is reports of:

-MIL wanting Jaden, Naz, TSJ and picks.
-MIN saying Jaden and Beringer are off the table.
-Giannis has not said he would or wouldn't sign an extension with the Wolves.
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If the Wolves have made an official offer for Giannis, that package has not been revealed. Lots of false info in this chat.
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Mnwild1128 wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 11:00 pm If the Wolves have made an official offer for Giannis, that package has not been revealed. Lots of false info in this chat.
Point is, there's no way some Randle or Gobert /Shannon /picks level offer keeps us in this, so whatever is on the table is keeping Milwaukee from blocking Connelly's number.

If we're one of the last 3 teams standing according to Ramona Shelburne, it doesn't take much to come up with an offer that trumps whatever Miami and Boston have and for us, that's offering everything.
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I don't believe we can beat an offer that involves: Bucks/Celtics (Giannis)/Hawks or Blazers (getting Brown and sending Bucks their own draft picks). Even by including Jaden.

Those are the only offers i would take if i am the Bucks. Unless you can convince me Hawks and Blazers would also want Jaden to send the Bucks back their picks.
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My sources say that the Bucks really want the draft rights to Henk Norel and that's what's keeping us at the trable for Giannis. Connelly needs to hold firm!!!
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WildWolf2813 wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 11:14 pm
Mnwild1128 wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 11:00 pm If the Wolves have made an official offer for Giannis, that package has not been revealed. Lots of false info in this chat.
Point is, there's no way some Randle or Gobert /Shannon /picks level offer keeps us in this, so whatever is on the table is keeping Milwaukee from blocking Connelly's number.

If we're one of the last 3 teams standing according to Ramona Shelburne, it doesn't take much to come up with an offer that trumps whatever Miami and Boston have and for us, that's offering everything.
Or... it's in the Bucks best interest to put it out there that MN is still in the mix. They want a bidding war.
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I'll play the game of "what if we did trade for Giannis"

for Randle/McDaniels /2 1's /a 2nd /a couple of swaps


It necessitates a Gobert trade.

Let's say that happens with Atlanta and we swap Gobert for Kuminga/Kispert /the #8 pick and Milwaukee's 2027 pick

I'm gonna play unrealistic hypothetical trade if the Wolves actually get Giannis


It's probably gonna be Randle, McDaniels, 2 #1's, 2 swaps, Memphis 2030 2nd


that necessitates a Gobert trade. If Atlanta's really interested in Gobert, that'll probably be #8/Kuminga/Kispert /Milwaukee 2027 first


So the lineup would be


C Giannis /Beringer /Zikarsky

PF Reid /Slow-Mo /Thanasis

SF Kispert /Kuminga /Middleton or Julian Phillips

SG Ant /Shannon /DiVincenzo

PG Dosumnu /Labaron Philon /Conley
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Q-is-here wrote: Fri May 29, 2026 8:16 am
AussieWolf3 wrote: Wed May 27, 2026 9:24 am But.... It is an argument that has more and more convinced me that trading for Giannis, at the right price would be ideal. The right price means keeping Jaden, that's critical in my opinion. You also have to move Rudy and I don't know who is your 5 that can space the floor next to Giannis, but ultimately I think it's the right fit and the right opportunity.

We'll see what happens but I think I'm most in favor of this move more than any else, assuming you keep Jaden
I would be willing to bet my drawer-full of Midwest Volleyball tchotchkeys that Tim Connelly and his front office staff are working the phones hard to put together a deal that would be acceptable to Milwaukee while NOT including Jaden.

Rudy would fit really well on Charlotte, a team on the cusp of making the playoffs and a PG capable of delivering him the ball in places where he can catch it. They were #5 on offense and #12 on defense last season, but their Centers are kind of "meh" overall. I have to believe he would be an attractive piece for them.

Charlotte also happens to have quite a few 1st round draft picks this year and next and Rudy would likely be worth at least two, if not three, of those first rounders along with the matching salaries of existing role players on their roster. Those 1sts would be valuable currency in the pursuit of Giannis in addition to the two 1st the Wolves have of their own that can be traded (this year's and, gulp, 2033 I believe).

Now let's turn to Randle. Milwaukee was terrible when Giannis didn't play last season and the new anti-tanking rules provide a disincentive for teams to end up among the bottom 3. Their Center happens to be Myles Turner, one of the few stretch 5 starting Centers in the NBA. Randle would help replace some of Giannis's scoring while being a decent fit next to Myles. This may be enough to make Milwaukee solidly mediocre, which is the sweet spot that yields the most lottery balls.

You'd have to make all the other salary matching work and I'm positive we'd need a big assist from Giannis' camp as a preferred destination, but I do think a deal centered around Randle and the assets Rudy gets from a 3rd team could be a compelling package.

Or may be I'm just dreaming....
Q - I think your drawer will remain full with your Volleyball tchotchkeys. :) No doubt in my mind you’re right about TC working the phones feverishly to pull off an Giannis deal. You’re also right that the Hornets have a bevy of attractive 1st round picks this year and next.

Where your analysis goes astray in my view is the assumption that the Wolves could get 2 or three of those Charlotte picks for Rudy Gobert. Sadly, I think you’re grossly overselling Rudy’s trade value. We can’t look at Rudy through the overpay lens of Tim Connelly and his overpay was back when Rudy was 30 years old, not 33 as he is now. And I don’t think the Bucks would view Randle as a significant value-add to their team as they enter full rebuild mode, although I get your point about not becoming too bad under the new lottery rules.

The Hornets have picks 14 and 18 this year. Next year they have their own 1st along with the Mavs’ pick (top 3 protected) and Miami’s pick (top 15 protected). So they’re likely to have at least two high to mid-first round picks next year and possibly as third mid to low first rounder. Yes, they’re loaded with four likely 1st round picks this year and next combined. The Bucks would likely insist on getting at least three of those picks, including this year’s #14, for Giannis. Maybe the Hornets would trade #14 for Rudy but I don’t see them giving up more. And I can’t see the Bucks seeing enough value in Randle to accept less than three of those four Charlotte picks - probably all four.

Honestly, if we can get two of those Charlotte picks (including their #14) for Rudy and our #28 (probably the best we could expect) I’d jump on that deal and use those picks to add young talent.
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Supposedly Giannis turned down a "far West team" in terms of not committing but won't " dissuade all teams".

That reads as anti Portland and Wolves positive to me.

It's going to be hilarious, and very exciting, if TC pulls this off.
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WildWolf2813 wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 1:52 am I'll play the game of "what if we did trade for Giannis"

for Randle/McDaniels /2 1's /a 2nd /a couple of swaps


It necessitates a Gobert trade.

Let's say that happens with Atlanta and we swap Gobert for Kuminga/Kispert /the #8 pick and Milwaukee's 2027 pick

I'm gonna play unrealistic hypothetical trade if the Wolves actually get Giannis


It's probably gonna be Randle, McDaniels, 2 #1's, 2 swaps, Memphis 2030 2nd


that necessitates a Gobert trade. If Atlanta's really interested in Gobert, that'll probably be #8/Kuminga/Kispert /Milwaukee 2027 first


So the lineup would be


C Giannis /Beringer /Zikarsky

PF Reid /Slow-Mo /Thanasis

SF Kispert /Kuminga /Middleton or Julian Phillips

SG Ant /Shannon /DiVincenzo

PG Dosumnu /Labaron Philon /Conley
We can only do one swap in 2028.
We also would have to add TSJ to that offer.

Hawks ain't giving up pick 8 plus another pick. Either pick 8 by itself in loaded top 10 or pick 23 and another protected future 1st. Also if Gobert is added, we would be asking for Okongwu.
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