2023 potential PG draft picks

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There have been a lot of comments here about how TC screwed up in last year's draft by not selecting a true PG. I don't necessarily agree or disagree, but with a 35-year-old now as our starting PG, TC might be wise to use our second rounder (around 40?) to pick a PG with some promise. Jalen Hood-Schifino gets a lot of hype and is projected to go around then, but I have my eyes more on another Big Ten PG...Jalen Pickett. He has good height at 6-4, and is in the midst of an outstanding senior season...18.1/7.4/7 on 36.7 3-point shooting. He's coming off a game where he scored 41 points on only 20 shots along with 8 assists against a pretty decent Illinois team. Not sure where I read it, but he has a chance to be the first NCAA player in decades to average more than 18/7/7 for the season. And another thing I like...when he talks about NBA players he admires, he looks at defense first.

He's not listed in any draft boards that I have seen...perhaps because he is already 23 and a 5th year senior. But I'm going to keep an eye on him. Anyone who is in Minnesota might check him out against our mighty Gophers today...he might get 50!
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I think where TC screwed up is not trading for Dejounte Murray instead of Rudy. Imagine Murray, ANT, Jaden, Kessler and Kat.
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papalrep wrote:I think where TC screwed up is not trading for Dejounte Murray instead of Rudy. Imagine Murray, ANT, Jaden, Kessler and Kat.


I actually would hate that. Murray has been pretty average this year. Also he would be an expiring contract next year and could walk for nothing.

Kessler being good is what is making the trade bad.

I just don't think Murray is that good and unlike Rudy the team control for Murray is bad
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kekgeek1 wrote:
papalrep wrote:I think where TC screwed up is not trading for Dejounte Murray instead of Rudy. Imagine Murray, ANT, Jaden, Kessler and Kat.


I actually would hate that. Murray has been pretty average this year. Also he would be an expiring contract next year and could walk for nothing.

Kessler being good is what is making the trade bad.

I just don't think Murray is that good and unlike Rudy the team control for Murray is bad


I didn't think they needed to trade for Dejounte Murray because they already had a good-not-great option in the backcourt in D'Angelo Russell. Investing three first-round picks there would have been a huge miscalculation in my mind.

Secondly, the four first-round picks (three unprotected) are bad enough for Rudy Gobert. That is what makes the trade bad or an overpay. Walker Kessler being a legitimately good player as a rookie only adds insult to injury.

Thirdly, that team control for Gobert is good until you remember that he's on a supermax and arguably not even worth half of what he's made in salary this year. His production should only decline as he further ages. His contract will also force the organization into some tough decisions that they otherwise might not have had to make. That team control can also be looked at as a negative.
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Also, Minnesota has a 2023 second-round pick and other future picks available for trade if they wanted to move up into the first round. Let's not skip a draft class. They could still be active on draft night this summer.
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Camden wrote:Also, Minnesota has a 2023 second-round pick and other future picks available for trade if they wanted to move up into the first round. Let's not skip a draft class. They could still be active on draft night this summer.


This thread should be all about cheering for the Knicks to fall apart the next few weeks. :)

Matteo Spagnolo was a stash dart throw late in the 2nd round. His shooting percentages have been very bad so far this year. I believe the only positive that can be gleaned is that in more recent games he is getting to the FT line at a pretty good rate for a 20 year old player in that league. It's supposed to be a step up from where he was playing before. I'm not holding out much hope he is anything especially with those poor shooting percentages but he is still young and has some size and looks like he has a decent skill set. It will be interesting to see if he comes over to play in summer league again. I watched a video that was somewhat recent and he still seems pretty enamored with the idea of playing in the NBA. MAYBE some other team would like a dart throw and he can be part of a trade up this year even if it's just higher in the 2nd round. That's probably even hoping for too much but I'm more pointing out Connelly did take a long shot at a guard.

The other thing to consider is guys in the G-league (heck even DJ Carton) or maybe a guy playing overseas. Beverly is just one example of a pretty useful player that anyone could have signed at one point. This is what I think Connelly was betting on that he could continue to find talent. In addition he doesn't have to find THE answer in the 2nd round or undrafted guy but maybe some additional value that can be sent in a trade. Robert Covington at one point was one of the most valued trade assets in the league that wasn't an all-star. It was because of his two-way value and a terrific contract.
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By the way, Shariffe Cooper turns just 22-years old in June and can be had for peanuts right now. No draft capital required to sign him. He's had a nice season in the G-League. There are some other intriguing guards at that level as well.

Unfortunately, Cooper's not a Chris Finch type of point guard so he'll never be on Minnesota's radar, but how long will Finch be around at this rate? Perhaps a conversation for another time...
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My apologies for putting the bad year in the thread title...I'm interested in this year's draft (2023), not next!

And by the way, my guy Pickett had another nice game today...32 points on 22 shots along with 9 rebounds and 8 assists. He's going to start rocketing up draft boards if he keeps putting up numbers like that.
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Camden wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:
papalrep wrote:I think where TC screwed up is not trading for Dejounte Murray instead of Rudy. Imagine Murray, ANT, Jaden, Kessler and Kat.


I actually would hate that. Murray has been pretty average this year. Also he would be an expiring contract next year and could walk for nothing.

Kessler being good is what is making the trade bad.

I just don't think Murray is that good and unlike Rudy the team control for Murray is bad


I didn't think they needed to trade for Dejounte Murray because they already had a good-not-great option in the backcourt in D'Angelo Russell. Investing three first-round picks there would have been a huge miscalculation in my mind.

Secondly, the four first-round picks (three unprotected) are bad enough for Rudy Gobert. That is what makes the trade bad or an overpay. Walker Kessler being a legitimately good player as a rookie only adds insult to injury.

Thirdly, that team control for Gobert is good until you remember that he's on a supermax and arguably not even worth half of what he's made in salary this year. His production should only decline as he further ages. His contract will also force the organization into some tough decisions that they otherwise might not have had to make. That team control can also be looked at as a negative.


The Hawks gave up three future 1st round picks and one meaningless player for salary match. Noteworthy is that the 2023 first rounder that Atlanta surrendered is top 16 protected I believe. So at most then Wolves would have had to give up three future firsts, one of them at least top 10 protected, and probably DLO. Therefore, if the question is whether we would have been better off dealing for Murray over Gobert, the answer is an incredibly easy yes. Nevertheless, I agree and was on record during the draft that giving up three future first round picks for Murray wasn't the right move to make.

The Gobert overpay is epic and inexcusable. And you correctly point out how team control over Gobert's bloated contract can (I'll add probably will) be a negative. It's not end end of the world for the Wolves, however, since we have KAT, Edwards, McDaniels, some impressive young talent in Minott and Garza, and a number of future 2nd round picks.
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Camden wrote:By the way, Shariffe Cooper turns just 22-years old in June and can be had for peanuts right now. No draft capital required to sign him. He's had a nice season in the G-League. There are some other intriguing guards at that level as well.

Unfortunately, Cooper's not a Chris Finch type of point guard so he'll never be on Minnesota's radar, but how long will Finch be around at this rate? Perhaps a conversation for another time...


Shariffe Cooper was player I wanted to the Wolves to sign to one of their two-way contracts earlier this season. McClung is another talented young PG who is doing well in the G-League. TC should sign one of them to a two-way or cheap standards roster contract for next season.
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