The Beasley Trade Thread

[Lipoli390]

In light of recent posts by Cam and Q, I thought it was time to start a thread devoted entirely to Beasley trade ideas. This thread is for debate about whether to trade Beasley and realistic Beasley trade ideas you think the Wolves might do or in your opinion should do.

[Lipoli390]

I'll start by suggesting the obvious trade with the Pacers:

Wolves get: Myles Turner
Pacers get: Malik Beasley + Naz Reid

I like this deal now that we've drafted Kessler. My reluctance to trade for Turner has always stemmed from his serious lack of durability. But two things have changed the calculus for me. First of all, Turner is entering the last year of his contract. So if he can't stay on the court, the Wolves wouldn't be stuck with him long term. Second, Kessler provides us depth at the center position, and more importantly, he provides a long term insurance policy in the even Myles is only here for one injury-plagued season. Turner is still a risk, but the risk for the Wolves is not was it was a year or two ago and he remains a high-reward acquisition who would be a near perfect fit for what the Wolves need.

The Wolves would be taking on a net additional $2 million in salary, but assuming the Wolves don't overpay to retain Prince, they'd still have significant room under the luxury tax threshold. Moreover, by acquiring Turner, the Wolves would no longer need to count on spending the entire MLE to sign a free agent big.

This is the deal I think the Wolves should do. If the Pacers want more, I'd say no. Let them shop him around the League. His injury history, especially his recent foot injury, make him a high-risk acquisition that a lot of teams won't be willing to consider. If necessary, we could include our latest Italian draft pick. :)

[Monster]

I'll start by suggesting the obvious trade with the Pacers:

Wolves get: Myles Turner
Pacers get: Malik Beasley + Naz Reid

I like this deal now that we've drafted Kessler. My reluctance to trade for Turner has always stemmed from his serious lack of durability. But two things have changed the calculus for me. First of all, Turner is entering the last year of his contract. So if he can't stay on the court, the Wolves wouldn't be stuck with him long term. Second, Kessler provides us depth at the center position, and more importantly, he provides a long term insurance policy in the even Myles is only here for one injury-plagued season. Turner is still a risk, but the risk for the Wolves is not was it was a year or two ago and he remains a high-reward acquisition who would be a near perfect fit for what the Wolves need.

The Wolves would be taking on a net additional $2 million in salary, but assuming the Wolves don't overpay to retain Prince, they'd still have significant room under the luxury tax threshold. Moreover, by acquiring Turner, the Wolves would no longer need to count on spending the entire MLE to sign a free agent big.

This is the deal I think the Wolves should do. If the Pacers want more, I'd say no. Let them shop him around the League. His injury history, especially his recent foot injury, make him a high-risk acquisition that a lot of teams won't be willing to consider. If necessary, we could include our latest Italian draft pick. :)

A few weeks ago you weren't willing to do Beasley straight up for Turner. :)

I think for real Pacers to be interested in this deal they would have to know they are going to move one of their 35 wing/guards and also value Naz. I think in terms of value I'm not sure they will do better for Turner in fact this might even be overpaying except it opens up a roster spot.

I'd have to look through things after the draft but I don't think there are any more obviously landing spots for Beasley before the draft. The Kings drafted Murray so maybe they aren't looking for shooting as much. After drafting Kessler I'm a little less excited about trading for Holmes since he will be signed for 3 more years for a decent chunk of money if he gets his trade bonus.

[Lipoli390]

I'll start by suggesting the obvious trade with the Pacers:

Wolves get: Myles Turner
Pacers get: Malik Beasley + Naz Reid

I like this deal now that we've drafted Kessler. My reluctance to trade for Turner has always stemmed from his serious lack of durability. But two things have changed the calculus for me. First of all, Turner is entering the last year of his contract. So if he can't stay on the court, the Wolves wouldn't be stuck with him long term. Second, Kessler provides us depth at the center position, and more importantly, he provides a long term insurance policy in the even Myles is only here for one injury-plagued season. Turner is still a risk, but the risk for the Wolves is not was it was a year or two ago and he remains a high-reward acquisition who would be a near perfect fit for what the Wolves need.

The Wolves would be taking on a net additional $2 million in salary, but assuming the Wolves don't overpay to retain Prince, they'd still have significant room under the luxury tax threshold. Moreover, by acquiring Turner, the Wolves would no longer need to count on spending the entire MLE to sign a free agent big.

This is the deal I think the Wolves should do. If the Pacers want more, I'd say no. Let them shop him around the League. His injury history, especially his recent foot injury, make him a high-risk acquisition that a lot of teams won't be willing to consider. If necessary, we could include our latest Italian draft pick. :)

A few weeks ago you weren't willing to do Beasley straight up for Turner. :)

I think for real Pacers to be interested in this deal they would have to know they are going to move one of their 35 wing/guards and also value Naz. I think in terms of value I'm not sure they will do better for Turner in fact this might even be overpaying except it opens up a roster spot.

I'd have to look through things after the draft but I don't think there are any more obviously landing spots for Beasley before the draft. The Kings drafted Murray so maybe they aren't looking for shooting as much. After drafting Kessler I'm a little less excited about trading for Holmes since he will be signed for 3 more years for a decent chunk of money if he gets his trade bonus.

I trust the Wolves front office, who apparently have long-term confidence in Kessler. That sort of tips the scale for me in what, as you know, has always been a close call for both of us. I think the only reluctance on Indiana's part would be the fact that they have Buddy Hield under contract for three more seasons. Beasley doesn't fit well with Buddy there. But the Pacers should be able to find a landing spot for Buddy in a separate deal or as part of a three-team with the Wolves. One thought off the top of my head would be Hield for Gallinari. Buddy is an elite 3-point shooter who can also do some secondary ballhandling. I could see Atlanta, in win-now mode, likening the idea of adding Buddy in exchange for Gallinari, who doesn't seem to have much left in his tank Gallinari, with his expiring contract, works well for the Pacers. And while we have no way of knowing whether or how much the Pacers value Naz, I'm guessing they'd consider him a significant positive given his talent, youth and contract.

The Wolves could expand their deal with Indiana by also swapping DLO for Brogdon. But I don't see the Pacers going for that. They'll have much better offers for Brogdon from other teams like the Wizards.

[Monster]

I'll start by suggesting the obvious trade with the Pacers:

Wolves get: Myles Turner
Pacers get: Malik Beasley + Naz Reid

I like this deal now that we've drafted Kessler. My reluctance to trade for Turner has always stemmed from his serious lack of durability. But two things have changed the calculus for me. First of all, Turner is entering the last year of his contract. So if he can't stay on the court, the Wolves wouldn't be stuck with him long term. Second, Kessler provides us depth at the center position, and more importantly, he provides a long term insurance policy in the even Myles is only here for one injury-plagued season. Turner is still a risk, but the risk for the Wolves is not was it was a year or two ago and he remains a high-reward acquisition who would be a near perfect fit for what the Wolves need.

The Wolves would be taking on a net additional $2 million in salary, but assuming the Wolves don't overpay to retain Prince, they'd still have significant room under the luxury tax threshold. Moreover, by acquiring Turner, the Wolves would no longer need to count on spending the entire MLE to sign a free agent big.

This is the deal I think the Wolves should do. If the Pacers want more, I'd say no. Let them shop him around the League. His injury history, especially his recent foot injury, make him a high-risk acquisition that a lot of teams won't be willing to consider. If necessary, we could include our latest Italian draft pick. :)

A few weeks ago you weren't willing to do Beasley straight up for Turner. :)

I think for real Pacers to be interested in this deal they would have to know they are going to move one of their 35 wing/guards and also value Naz. I think in terms of value I'm not sure they will do better for Turner in fact this might even be overpaying except it opens up a roster spot.

I'd have to look through things after the draft but I don't think there are any more obviously landing spots for Beasley before the draft. The Kings drafted Murray so maybe they aren't looking for shooting as much. After drafting Kessler I'm a little less excited about trading for Holmes since he will be signed for 3 more years for a decent chunk of money if he gets his trade bonus.

I trust the Wolves front office, who apparently have long-term confidence in Kessler. That sort of tips the scale for me in what, as you know, has always been a close call for both of us. I think the only reluctance on Indiana's part would be the fact that they have Buddy Hield under contract for three more seasons. Beasley doesn't fit well with Buddy there. But the Pacers should be able to find a landing spot for Buddy in a separate deal or as part of a three-team with the Wolves. One thought off the top of my head would be Hield for Gallinari. Buddy is an elite 3-point shooter who can also do some secondary ballhandling. I could see Atlanta, in win-now mode, likening the idea of adding Buddy in exchange for Gallinari, who doesn't seem to have much left in his tank Gallinari, with his expiring contract, works well for the Pacers. And while we have no way of knowing whether or how much the Pacers value Naz, I'm guessing they'd consider him a significant positive given his talent, youth and contract.

The Wolves could expand their deal with Indiana by also swapping DLO for Brogdon. But I don't see the Pacers going for that. They'll have much better offers for Brogdon from other teams like the Wizards.

Buddy is only signed for 1 more season after this year at a little over 19 million. If Gallo is not really good then I doubt the Pacers are gonna want to do that deal. I think they would need to get something else back.

As much as it makes sense to move Beasley I don't think the Wolves move him unless they get value back. He didn't complain last year and with a full offseason not being in jail etc he could be even more impactful this season. I'm not saying they should keep him but if they are basically dumping him somewhat like the Buddy trade for Gallo trade you suggested they should hold onto him. Guys like him could have solid value at the trade deadline. If something happens at PG position the Wolves may need all the shooting they can get.

[JasonIsDaMan [enjin:7981157]]

I am not going to quote every post that mentions IND. I just want to say a general "I Love IND as a trade partner". They have CLE's '23 LotteryProtected First and some 2nd's (both theirs and others) that could be really good. And they have a ton of Trade Exceptions for Multi-team deals. So something like DLO/Bev/Beas for Brog/Hield/Turner/McC/CLE first/2nd's/(other firsts?), and if they say "We'll call you back because we're bringing in some other teams", so be it.

[Lipoli390]

Maybe a Gallo-Buddy deal wouldn't be attractive to the Pacers. My point is that I'm sure the Pacers would be able to find a suitor for Buddy if they dealt Turner to the Wolves for Beasley. I think Beasley makes more sense than Buddy for the Pacers. He's younger and has a more team-friendly contract. Beasley and Naz would be a nice return for the injury-plagued Turner. Then the Pacers could turn around and get value from a contending team for Buddy. I'm a Beasley fan and I'm not personally anxious to see the Wolves trade him. But I can see how it would make sense to get a player like Turner in return and provide more development opportunity for Nowell, Bolmaro and Moore. And there's an argument that the Wolves would actually be better with Nowell displacing Beasley in the rotation.

[Monster]

Maybe a Gallo-Buddy deal wouldn't be attractive to the Pacers. My point is that I'm sure the Pacers would be able to find a suitor for Buddy if they dealt Turner to the Wolves for Beasley. I think Beasley makes more sense than Buddy for the Pacers. He's younger and has a more team-friendly contract. Beasley and Naz would be a nice return for the injury-plagued Turner. Then the Pacers could turn around and get value from a contending team for Buddy. I'm a Beasley fan and I'm not personally anxious to see the Wolves trade him. But I can see how it would make sense to get a player like Turner in return and provide more development opportunity for Nowell, Bolmaro and Moore. And there's an argument that the Wolves would actually be better with Nowell displacing Beasley in the rotation.

Lip I think you may be underestimating how many teams are going to avoid having contracts for the 2023 offseason. It might be stupid for many teams to do that (possibly even the Wolves) but I think it's going to be a thing. No joke I think some teams if they want to move players with contracts beyond this season they may have to give up more (or get back less attractive assets) to make it happen. Meanwhile Indiana can probably live with Buddy on their roster next year as they will be well below the cap anyways. I think they probably hold onto him as some sort of asset instead of dumping him to save cap space next year. Although having another nearly 20 million in space may end up being an asset in and of itself since they could be a landing spot for teams wanting to dump players to get farther under the cap etc. Anyways it will be interesting to see if Indiana goes full rebuild and basically trades away anyone over the age of 26 while having a future HOF coach in Carlisle.

[Lipoli390]

Maybe a Gallo-Buddy deal wouldn't be attractive to the Pacers. My point is that I'm sure the Pacers would be able to find a suitor for Buddy if they dealt Turner to the Wolves for Beasley. I think Beasley makes more sense than Buddy for the Pacers. He's younger and has a more team-friendly contract. Beasley and Naz would be a nice return for the injury-plagued Turner. Then the Pacers could turn around and get value from a contending team for Buddy. I'm a Beasley fan and I'm not personally anxious to see the Wolves trade him. But I can see how it would make sense to get a player like Turner in return and provide more development opportunity for Nowell, Bolmaro and Moore. And there's an argument that the Wolves would actually be better with Nowell displacing Beasley in the rotation.

Lip I think you may be underestimating how many teams are going to avoid having contracts for the 2023 offseason. It might be stupid for many teams to do that (possibly even the Wolves) but I think it's going to be a thing. No joke I think some teams if they want to move players with contracts beyond this season they may have to give up more (or get back less attractive assets) to make it happen. Meanwhile Indiana can probably live with Buddy on their roster next year as they will be well below the cap anyways. I think they probably hold onto him as some sort of asset instead of dumping him to save cap space next year. Although having another nearly 20 million in space may end up being an asset in and of itself since they could be a landing spot for teams wanting to dump players to get farther under the cap etc. Anyways it will be interesting to see if Indiana goes full rebuild and basically trades away anyone over the age of 26 while having a future HOF coach in Carlisle.

If you're right, then having Buddy on their roster shouldn't deter the Pacers from dealing for Beasley. One way or another, I can see Indiana having an interest in trading Myles for Malik. I suspect the Pacers would want something else in return and maybe Naz would be enough. As for what the would do with Buddy, who knows. I wouldn't underestimate the motivation of win-now teams like the Sixers, Heat, Clippers and Lakers to have a lot of interest in adding a veteran sharp-shooter like Buddy Hield.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I would fully expect the Pacers to get at least one first-round pick for Myles Turner. I don't see them budging on that either.