Hypothetical Wolves Pre-Draft Day Deals - Would You or Wouldn’t You?
Hypothetical Wolves Pre-Draft Day Deals - Would You or Wouldn’t You?
The following hypothetical deals to add another low 1st-round pick are based on recent reports about certain teams wanting to trade their picks an/or certain players for a win-now veteran. The question posed in this thread isn't whether you think the deal is something the other team would do, but rather whether you think the Wolves should do the deal if offered today. You can pick more than one. Choose the ones you would say yes to if you were Tim Connelly. Deadline is Noon Central time tomorrow, after which the deal is off the table. :)
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A little more explanation for the hypothetical deals.
Regarding the two deals with the Sixers, it's been widely reported that the Sixers are trying to deal their #23 pick for a win-now veteran. Moreover, they've also reportedly been trying to find a team that will take Danny Green contract. He has one year left at $10M and having torn his ACL this past season, he likely won't play at all next season. So he's dead weight and that means the Sixers will have to give up value to get rid of him. Beverley seems like the perfect fit for a team trying to win now with Embiid and Harden. He brings toughness, defense and 3-point shooting. Beasley would provided the 3-point shooting they used to get from Danny Green. Getting either Beverley or Beasley AND getting rid of Danny Green's contract should be worth a lot to the Sixers.
Regarding the Miami deals, it's been reported that the Heat would love to get Beverley and Beverley has expressed a liking for that scenario. Duncan Robinson' s horrible defense was exposed in the playoffs. He's worse defensively than Beasley and doesn't nothing on the offensive end except hit threes - unlikely Beasley who is highly athletic, rebounds and runs the floor. I think Miami would love to get either Beasley or Beverley for Robinson and his remaining 4-year $15.M per year contract. Giving up pick #27 would be an easy give on their part. The DLO deal was my own concoction. Lowry is 36 years old with two year left on his deal. I would think the Heat would prefer the much younger DLO with only one year left to help get Miami over the hump next season. Again pick #27 likely means very little to the Heat in their current situation.
Regarding the Cavs, it's been reported that the Cavs are shopping their pick 14 for a future 1st.
Regarding the two deals with the Sixers, it's been widely reported that the Sixers are trying to deal their #23 pick for a win-now veteran. Moreover, they've also reportedly been trying to find a team that will take Danny Green contract. He has one year left at $10M and having torn his ACL this past season, he likely won't play at all next season. So he's dead weight and that means the Sixers will have to give up value to get rid of him. Beverley seems like the perfect fit for a team trying to win now with Embiid and Harden. He brings toughness, defense and 3-point shooting. Beasley would provided the 3-point shooting they used to get from Danny Green. Getting either Beverley or Beasley AND getting rid of Danny Green's contract should be worth a lot to the Sixers.
Regarding the Miami deals, it's been reported that the Heat would love to get Beverley and Beverley has expressed a liking for that scenario. Duncan Robinson' s horrible defense was exposed in the playoffs. He's worse defensively than Beasley and doesn't nothing on the offensive end except hit threes - unlikely Beasley who is highly athletic, rebounds and runs the floor. I think Miami would love to get either Beasley or Beverley for Robinson and his remaining 4-year $15.M per year contract. Giving up pick #27 would be an easy give on their part. The DLO deal was my own concoction. Lowry is 36 years old with two year left on his deal. I would think the Heat would prefer the much younger DLO with only one year left to help get Miami over the hump next season. Again pick #27 likely means very little to the Heat in their current situation.
Regarding the Cavs, it's been reported that the Cavs are shopping their pick 14 for a future 1st.
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Absolutely not to any of the deals with the Heat because I don't ant Robinson's money on the books.
Sixers trades the one including Beasley I would do it without any draft picks exchanged to be honest.
The one including Beverly that's harder. I'm on the fence about that one.
It's also worth adding that Green COULD be back and healthy for a playoff run. It's not something I would bank on but it's not impossible either. If nothing else he would be an expiring deal which could come in handy in another deal. It wouldn't be bad to have a vet like that around the team for months too.
If the Cavs would actually agree to protections like that it would be hard to pass up. I would need to know I was going to be able to get some value out of the three 2nd round picks to make that deal though. I doubt I would know for sure I would know I could deal them so...I'll say yes but there is some hesitation.
Sixers trades the one including Beasley I would do it without any draft picks exchanged to be honest.
The one including Beverly that's harder. I'm on the fence about that one.
It's also worth adding that Green COULD be back and healthy for a playoff run. It's not something I would bank on but it's not impossible either. If nothing else he would be an expiring deal which could come in handy in another deal. It wouldn't be bad to have a vet like that around the team for months too.
If the Cavs would actually agree to protections like that it would be hard to pass up. I would need to know I was going to be able to get some value out of the three 2nd round picks to make that deal though. I doubt I would know for sure I would know I could deal them so...I'll say yes but there is some hesitation.
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I voted for the Beverley to Sixers deal. Beverley, while great now, that type of abrasive personality can wear in a blink. Especially with him entering his ring chasing twilight. Getting Thybulle and #23 is a no brainer.
The Beasley trade, no. We lose our only role playing perimeter flamethrower.
The Miami trades, no thank you to either.
I am against trading future firsts for a pick now. It almost has always bitten us in the ass. Especially with us still trying to figure out what we do have. We will want our picks to fill out gaps moving forward, as they will be one of our only and best options of addition without any subtraction.
The Beasley trade, no. We lose our only role playing perimeter flamethrower.
The Miami trades, no thank you to either.
I am against trading future firsts for a pick now. It almost has always bitten us in the ass. Especially with us still trying to figure out what we do have. We will want our picks to fill out gaps moving forward, as they will be one of our only and best options of addition without any subtraction.
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TheFuture wrote:I voted for the Beverley to Sixers deal. Beverley, while great now, that type of abrasive personality can wear in a blink. Especially with him entering his ring chasing twilight. Getting Thybulle and #23 is a no brainer.
The Beasley trade, no. We lose our only role playing perimeter flamethrower.
The Miami trades, no thank you to either.
I am against trading future firsts for a pick now. It almost has always bitten us in the ass. Especially with us still trying to figure out what we do have. We will want our picks to fill out gaps moving forward, as they will be one of our only and best options of addition without any subtraction.
I get that trading away Beasley gives up a lot of volume 3 point shooting but adding Thybulle and keeping Beverly would give the wolves a couple hug level perimeter defensive players. That's kinda exciting. Meanwhile the Wolves have Nowell they could throw in their for offense and while he isn't the volume 3 point shooter and guy that doesn't need the ball he is a guy that has way more ways to go get a bucket and even create some for others.
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The following trade offer is the only one here that I'd lean towards accepting: Malik Beasley and the 40th overall pick for Danny Green, Matisse Thybulle, and the 23rd overall pick. I think there's an argument to be had that Thybulle has a bigger impact than Beasley does despite the latter being more offensively-gifted. And then you add a first-round pick on top of that. That would be a win, I think.
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Camden wrote:The following trade offer is the only one here that I'd lean towards accepting: Malik Beasley and the 40th overall pick for Danny Green, Matisse Thybulle, and the 23rd overall pick. I think there's an argument to be had that Thybulle has a bigger impact than Beasley does despite the latter being more offensively-gifted. And then you add a first-round pick on top of that. That would be a win, I think.
Yeah Im with this. There are very few scenarios where I would want to get rid of Beverley.
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Do we really need yet another pick in this draft? I question the premise of the poll. What about us being the team wanting a win-now vet?
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This three team trade works in trade machine and is a variation on the Lowry/DLO trade but instead of getting pick 27, Wolves get Tyler Herro. Jimmy and Kyrie are friends and with the news that Kyrie may part ways with the Nets, both Miami and Nets might have some incentive to do a deal like this. Thoughts?
Wolves (outgoing): DLO
Wolves (incoming): Tyler Herro, Lowry
Heat (outgoing): Max Strus, Tyler Herro, Kyle Lowry
Heat (incoming): Kyrie Irving
Nets (outgoing): Kyrie Irving
Nets (incoming): DLO, Max Strus
Wolves (outgoing): DLO
Wolves (incoming): Tyler Herro, Lowry
Heat (outgoing): Max Strus, Tyler Herro, Kyle Lowry
Heat (incoming): Kyrie Irving
Nets (outgoing): Kyrie Irving
Nets (incoming): DLO, Max Strus
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Camden wrote:The following trade offer is the only one here that I'd lean towards accepting: Malik Beasley and the 40th overall pick for Danny Green, Matisse Thybulle, and the 23rd overall pick. I think there's an argument to be had that Thybulle has a bigger impact than Beasley does despite the latter being more offensively-gifted. And then you add a first-round pick on top of that. That would be a win, I think.
That's the one I'd do too, but man this team better have nothing but shooters lined up to get drafted. Otherwise we traded up to get Aussie Okogie.
side note: Thybulle is also unvaxxed