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Rank the assets likely involved in the Philly deal

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There has been a lot of great discussion about the assets most likely involved in a deal with Philly. Go on record, and rank them in order of value, and give your reasons. This thread should be very bumpable in about a year or so!
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I ranked them Bennett, Pick, Young, although there are things to like about all three assets.

Despite his dreadful rookie year, I see enormous upside for Bennett. As I mentioned earlier, his draftexpress pre-draft video is one of the most impressive I have seen, and I see him working very hard this year to regain his reputation.

The Miami pick will probably be in the teens somewhere. First round picks always have some value, but this one may be about 18, and last time we turned that into Chase Budinger. A lot of unknowns here, but I see less value than Bennett and more than Young.

Character counts for me, and for that reason I am not opposed to dealing for Young despite his lackluster stats. But his rebounding issues are too much for me to justify giving up Bennett or the pick for him. Get him in exchange for other assets if you can, but keep Bennett and Miami's pick.
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Young, 1st round pick, Bennett

My reasons have been stated. I don't wanna waste anybody's time reading what they've already seen me say.
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Young, Bennett, Pick

These are based on the Wolves needs now and in the future

Thad is obviously the most valuable asset based on talent, production, and positional need.

Bennett is the second most valuable asset because I think he has potential that could be brought out and exploited by Rubio, who will be the Wolves centerpiece from this point on and we need to give him the tools he needs to excel.

The Miami pick is the least valuable asset to me. Assuming this pick is in the late teens or early 20's the chances on hitting on a pick like this (especially for the Wolves) is hard to do. I think that this is the asset along with our expiring's that we need to move now to get a player like Thad so it's the least tangible asset we have right now in terms of the future for the Wolves, does that make sense? Probably not


I haven't weighed in on the whole Thad issue yet but I might as well here

Thad Young is a solid player, not a star by any means, probably a third/fourth option on most teams. Young has expressed in the past that he wants to play for a contender which doesn't bode well for the Wolves on retaining him. He would probably resign is we gave him a big money offer which I'm not sure he's worth. I would totally trade him for the Miami pick and our expiring's but I wouldn't be in favor of including Bennett.

Here's why:

Like LST has said multiple times Bennett was hampered by numerous issues last season and it appears he has corrected many of those issues this offseason which gives me hope that he can become a solid contributor who is locked up for multiple seasons. Sure his contract looks bad right now but if he improves and becomes a solid contributor his contract becomes a bargain. Going Gretzky on you mofos "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take" so lets take a shot on Bennett, if he doesn't pan out we can decline his option and poof he is gone.

I just want to point this out again, Thad is a BETTER player than Bennett right now but I don't think he is worth both a 1st round pick and Bennett. I don't see any other team giving up a better pick than Miami's for Thad so I don't see why we should give them anything more than that
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That's a solid take Volans. I'm bearish on Bennett, but I can see why you would prefer to keep him and try to pry Young away with other assets instead.
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I went Bennett pick young. While Young is the most valuable right now, I can't put him ahead of the other assets because he can walk after the season. As previously mentioned our likely option is to overpay him, and we just can't afford to be paying 10+ for a guy that is an average starter at best. If Flip could get him to waive his opt out, I would move him ahead of the pick due to where it is likely to fall. I think Bennett is more talented, but I do worry about the asthma/sleep apnea crap. I cut him some slack due to his rehab last year, but I also question his toughness mentally.

This is likely one of those situations that the proven player is more likely to be the better player down the line as well. I hate having to value potential in a guy that looks soft mentally.
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I went Young Bennett Pick.

A couple things I'll add.

Young wants to opt out because let's be honest the Sixers might not have a chance to be good for like 3 years. The Wolves have pieces right now and with Thad and young players we have a legit chance to be thinking playoffs next year if Wiggins starts living up to his potential. Why I say that is Thad is way more likely to stick around here than Philly this isn't a strip everything rebuild. Also I don't think its gonna take a big contract to keep him here either unless he really blows up this year or something.

The pick has some value when you consider one of the draft day deals from this draft the Bulls taking their 2 picks and moving up to get McBuckets. Its possible we could move up next year and get that guy we really want if we have that 2nd pick. Just something to think about.
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What do we think now?
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