Poll on Flip's handling of the AK process
- longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
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Poll on Flip's handling of the AK process
As we continue to evaluate Flip's offseason moves, I want to take the temperature of the board on how he handled the AK process. I recognize there may be options other than the two I have listed, but I want to keep this simple. Either he butchered the process, or his hands were tied and he did all he could. Vote away!
- longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
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Re: Poll on Flip's handling of the AK process
First of all, I want to pat myself on the back for my ability to post a poll (with jd's help). Really proud of myself!
After reading Krawczynski's article about AK yesterday, I am convinced that Flip's hands were tied in this process. While AK might have taken a ridiculous offer, like 3 more years at $10 million, it seems clear that he is at the stage in his career that his main goal is to win a ring, and the only contender that made him an offer was the Nets. Kraw says the Wolves did offer AK three years at $6-7 million per year, and that AK turned it down.
If that is true, I think it's pointless to evaluate Flip on AK leaving. It's certainly fair to have a debate on his 2013 draft, and how he did in signing Martin, Brewer and Turiaf (and I guess Bud and maybe Pek), but if Kraw's report is accurate AK's departure was beyond Flip's control and should be left out of the debate.
After reading Krawczynski's article about AK yesterday, I am convinced that Flip's hands were tied in this process. While AK might have taken a ridiculous offer, like 3 more years at $10 million, it seems clear that he is at the stage in his career that his main goal is to win a ring, and the only contender that made him an offer was the Nets. Kraw says the Wolves did offer AK three years at $6-7 million per year, and that AK turned it down.
If that is true, I think it's pointless to evaluate Flip on AK leaving. It's certainly fair to have a debate on his 2013 draft, and how he did in signing Martin, Brewer and Turiaf (and I guess Bud and maybe Pek), but if Kraw's report is accurate AK's departure was beyond Flip's control and should be left out of the debate.
- GymRat [enjin:6592663]
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Re: Poll on Flip's handling of the AK process
I think Flip handled it just fine. I am of the impression that while Flip will go the extra half-mile to show a player he's wanted, but he won't grovel or beg or plead. He seems to have approached free agency with a business-like approach and doesn't waste time. If a player responds favorably he moves quickly to get them on board, but if they don't he moves on to the next guy. In order to fill the gaps we had it was imperative to move swiftly so our options weren't exhausted by other teams while we waited (see: Nic Batum last year, Mavs this Summer).
- Coolbreeze44
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Re: Poll on Flip's handling of the AK process
AK's actions were such that I actually believe Flip did more than he should have. First AK strung the process out on whether he would accept his option until the last possible minute. He made the Wolves wait around on him the whole time and then bailed in the end. I don't blame Flip one bit for how he handled the situation. In fact if it were up to me, I would have told AK to eff off from the get go and moved on. AK got what he deserved in this deal. Less money on a team that will not come out of the East. Looking forward to the time when this board can put the AK saga behind us.
- Squishypoo [enjin:6648839]
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Re: Poll on Flip's handling of the AK process
He truned down 10M for one year,To make under 10M in 3 years, What dose that tell you? He did not want to be a wolve.. Most of the blame should be on Kahn for giving him a PO in year 2.
- m4gor [enjin:6667447]
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Re: Poll on Flip's handling of the AK process
not offering any contract to you best player of a season is weird (Flip lied about offering AK contract, in fact there was no real offer on the table which is main reason why AK is gone), what i believe is that it was Adelman who didnt want AK for some reasons, but still its very bad approach, and i will tell you why ..
i am not quite sure if making playoffs in next 2 years with 1st round exit will be good enough to keep Love in here, and if Ricky wont improve into superstar (which is possible but i wouldnt count on that) we cannot put playoff roster together without Love ..
imho if we kept AK we would be much better team in next two years which would improve our chances to actualy build some contending team later on, and i would rather overpay AK in his third season than start Brewer or Bud for 3 years ..
we are extremely wasting years with Rubio on cheap contract, last season with not getting any starting SG and gambling with Roy and this offseason with not getting/keeping legit starting SF, i actualy have bad feeling that Adelman evaluates fit to his system over quality of player, which is kind of similar with what D'Antoni does etc. Adelman is great coach he is 6th in career wins as a coach but how many times he was in NBA finals and how many rings he got?
i am not quite sure if making playoffs in next 2 years with 1st round exit will be good enough to keep Love in here, and if Ricky wont improve into superstar (which is possible but i wouldnt count on that) we cannot put playoff roster together without Love ..
imho if we kept AK we would be much better team in next two years which would improve our chances to actualy build some contending team later on, and i would rather overpay AK in his third season than start Brewer or Bud for 3 years ..
we are extremely wasting years with Rubio on cheap contract, last season with not getting any starting SG and gambling with Roy and this offseason with not getting/keeping legit starting SF, i actualy have bad feeling that Adelman evaluates fit to his system over quality of player, which is kind of similar with what D'Antoni does etc. Adelman is great coach he is 6th in career wins as a coach but how many times he was in NBA finals and how many rings he got?
- Squishypoo [enjin:6648839]
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Re: Poll on Flip's handling of the AK process
There was a contract made to AK.. 2 years for over 20M With a PO in the 2nd year ..It was AK that took less money to play for the nets...And how do you know another contract was not offerd to him? A lot of what your saying is JYO and you have no proof to back any of it up...
Re: Poll on Flip's handling of the AK process
Squishypoo wrote:He truned down 10M for one year,To make under 10M in 3 years, What dose that tell you? He did not want to be a wolve.. Most of the blame should be on Kahn for giving him a PO in year 2.
Are you going to say the same thing in two years when the player options come up for Brewer and Bud, or in three years when Martin has an opt out?
I don't think Flip had any intention of signing AK, which is fine if that is the direction he wants to take the team, but at least be man enough to come out and admit it.
Cool, I don't see the problem with AK waiting to see who we took in the draft before deciding to exercise his option. That is a very common deadline and most players wait until the last minute before making their decision. The fact that Flip drafted a SF sure didn't help convince AK to stay!
I think we are better off in the long run without AK because I just don't see him staying healthy. I also feel that Flip significantly overpaid for both Brewer and Bud. Neither are starter quality players. I am also concerned about Martin staying healthy.
I see Love walking away in a couple years, and most of the team shortly thereafter. Our only real hope is that Ricky improves to the point that Love can't bring himself to opt out.
- Coolbreeze44
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Re: Poll on Flip's handling of the AK process
If AK had opted in, we probably wouldn't have taken a SF in the draft. It works both ways.
Re: Poll on Flip's handling of the AK process
CoolBreeze44 wrote:If AK had opted in, we probably wouldn't have taken a SF in the draft. It works both ways.
Cool, I really hope a player on a one year deal didn't factor in to who Flip took in the draft. I am already disappointed we didn't take CJ.