Let's say the Wolves traded #1 #17 maybe even #33 for a star player and now it makes sense to trade some young players for draft picks this year. Basically I'm just setting up a Completely theoretical scenario where it makes sense to add more picks to this draft.
What's the minimum draft pick you would accept for:
Okogie
Culver
I those guys because they may have value and also will cost a decent amount of money. If you want to include cheaper guys like Reid or Nowell or even Layman sure. Beasley Is a RFA so he can't justvbe dealt whenever.
Theoretical trade value thread
- mrhockey89
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I'd consider either for a top 8 pick, but wouldn't be seeking the trade. Anything lower and I'd ask what the point is. Culver started showing signs of life before the season got cut off, and Okogie is our best 1 on 1 defender and energy guy.
- Camden [enjin:6601484]
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Jarrett Culver: 10th overall
Josh Okogie: 17th overall
That's the valuation in my head. I think Culver's lost a little value since being drafted, but had enough moments as a rookie to remain worthy of a top-10 pick. He'd be a top-10 pick if he was in this draft class right now. On the other hand, Okogie is a legitimately good perimeter defender that can handle most -- not all -- assignments guarding 1-3 and won't absolutely kill your team's flow offensively. I'd need a pick back for him that is better than the pick he was selected with (20).
This is what I would need back minimally to move them receiving only draft picks in return.
Josh Okogie: 17th overall
That's the valuation in my head. I think Culver's lost a little value since being drafted, but had enough moments as a rookie to remain worthy of a top-10 pick. He'd be a top-10 pick if he was in this draft class right now. On the other hand, Okogie is a legitimately good perimeter defender that can handle most -- not all -- assignments guarding 1-3 and won't absolutely kill your team's flow offensively. I'd need a pick back for him that is better than the pick he was selected with (20).
This is what I would need back minimally to move them receiving only draft picks in return.
Re: Theoretical trade value thread
Camden0916 wrote:Jarrett Culver: 10th overall
Josh Okogie: 17th overall
That's the valuation in my head. I think Culver's lost a little value since being drafted, but had enough moments as a rookie to remain worthy of a top-10 pick. He'd be a top-10 pick if he was in this draft class right now. On the other hand, Okogie is a legitimately good perimeter defender that can handle most -- not all -- assignments guarding 1-3 and won't absolutely kill your team's flow offensively. I'd need a pick back for him that is better than the pick he was selected with (20).
This is what I would need back minimally to move them receiving only draft picks in return.
Good take. Im higher on culver than most. I think he will have a breakout 2nd season and could be our starting sg of the future. He looks bigger than he was lst season and I think he will eventually play up to his potential and be a 3rd or 4th best player on a winning team.
As for okogie, he is the type of player you love to root for. He has marcus smart type potential as far as his role and impact on a team.
- Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
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If either Culver or Okogie start hitting 35% or more of their 3's, their valuation jumps up to top 8 picks, especially Culver.
As for defense, I actually think Culver has the potential to be a better defender. He' stickier, whereas Okogie tends to rely a lot on trying to draw offensive fouls, which when not called, ends up leading to an open lane or shot.
As for defense, I actually think Culver has the potential to be a better defender. He' stickier, whereas Okogie tends to rely a lot on trying to draw offensive fouls, which when not called, ends up leading to an open lane or shot.
Re: Theoretical trade value thread
I thought this would be an interesting thread because the other day I was on Twitter and I saw some non-wolves fans discussing what Culver and Okogie's value would be relative to this draft. There were some fans (again non-wolves fans) that were pretty high on them.
I'd say I might take a little lower pick than 10 than Cam said for Culver and I'd be right where he is for Okogie at #17. There has been some buzz about Culver's shot motion being smoothed out. We have heard that type of thing before but I do think the super long layoff of the pandemic COULD end up being good for Culver if he is able to spend what like almost a year working on his shot? Like Q said if either of these guys start being able to hit 3's at a decent rate their value jumps up pretty high. Both would be a little more offensively than just "3 and D" guys but even if that's all they were they would Still have a bunch of value.
I'd say I might take a little lower pick than 10 than Cam said for Culver and I'd be right where he is for Okogie at #17. There has been some buzz about Culver's shot motion being smoothed out. We have heard that type of thing before but I do think the super long layoff of the pandemic COULD end up being good for Culver if he is able to spend what like almost a year working on his shot? Like Q said if either of these guys start being able to hit 3's at a decent rate their value jumps up pretty high. Both would be a little more offensively than just "3 and D" guys but even if that's all they were they would Still have a bunch of value.
- khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
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In this draft I need a top 5 pick for Culver and a top 10 pick for Okogie. If Culver stayed one more year at Texas Tech he could be pushing into the top 3 of this draft just from the pure fact he'd have the most tape on him of solid college play. And Okogie has an NBA skill on defense that makes him worth a top 10 pick in this draft where you are hoping to land a similar player (at least 1 translatable NBA skill) once you get around the 10th pick. He can play in a modern NBA rotation. That's more than I see a lot of these guys ending up.
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Re: Theoretical trade value thread
picks in 2021. I have no interest in trying to bank the future of this team on this draft.
- mrhockey89
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Q12543 wrote:If either Culver or Okogie start hitting 35% or more of their 3's, their valuation jumps up to top 8 picks, especially Culver.
As for defense, I actually think Culver has the potential to be a better defender. He' stickier, whereas Okogie tends to rely a lot on trying to draw offensive fouls, which when not called, ends up leading to an open lane or shot.
Except when Okogie defends James Harden