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We have a thread for possible John Collins deals. So I thought I'd start a thread on possible deals for the other PF that Rosas apparently covets, Aaron Gordon.

I'll start off by simply noting that I have no interest in acquiring Gordon. He's in his 7th NBA season, so I think we know what he is and shouldn't assume any remaining significant upside. In a nutshell, Gordon is mediocre at best. With a career average of 6.4 rebounds in 28 minutes per game, he's a mediocre rebounder as a PF. Although he's hitting 36.5% of his threes this season, that's a very small sample size of 20 games and it doesn't stack up meaningfully against his poor career average of 32.2%. Moreover, he's only hitting 42.5%, which is dismal for a PF. And his career 44.7% FG average isn't much better. He's not a shot-blocker and has only averaged 0.8 steals per game over his career. Meanwhile, he's averaging 2.7 turnover per game this season. He's not much of a ball-handler and he's not particularly long.

Nevertheless, here are some possible deals that would work and that I think Orlando would do:

Wolves Get
Gordon
Carter-Williams or Khmer Birch

Magic Get
Ricky
Culver

Would I do this deal if I were the Wolves PBO? No. But I think the Magic would. Ricky would shore up their PG position for the next two season and provide a mentor for Fultz when he returns next season. Culver would give them a talented young prospect to potentially pair with Fultz in the backcourt.

Why wouldn't I do this deal? Because I just don't like Gordon's game and I don't think he brings value commensurate with his salary. Moreover, he has only one season left on his contract, so could end up leaving after one season or holding the Wolves hostage for an even more inflated contract in a year.
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I may like Gordon's game more than you, Lip, but I also wouldn't consider the deal you lay out above. Rubio is playing at a very high level the past 16 games, and clearly a better player than Gordon. Aaron has been a plus defender though the past three years and I believe an upgrade over our current core of PFs...promising though they might be. And we also have a current glut of wings. So I would offer Culver and Juancho (and Davis if his expiring were needed). Orlando might like the upgrade they get in rebounding and 3-point shooting with Juancho enough that they accept the downgrade in defense he brings, and they may see untapped potential in Culver. I would do that deal, and would see it as an upgrade for the Wolves in that it would balance their roster and give them a reasonably proficient veteran starting PF.

I don't think my deal is enough for Orlando though. Reports are that Atlanta fans are talking about DLO in a deal, but Gordon plus filler simply isn't anywhere good enough to bring back DLO. Rubio is being mentioned in a lot in Gordon rumors, but most of the talk was before Ricky got on his hot streak. If Rosas pulled the trigger on a Rubio/Gordon deal now, I might track him down with intent to do harm...well, at least TP his yard.
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Reports are that Atlanta fans are talking about DLO in a deal...


I'd love to see such a report produced or linked because I don't think the idea of D'Angelo Russell being traded to Atlanta exists anywhere besides this forum.
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Camden wrote:
Reports are that Atlanta fans are talking about DLO in a deal...


I'd love to see such a report produced or linked because I don't think the idea of D'Angelo Russell being traded to Atlanta exists anywhere besides this forum.


An atlanta stringer (who's obviously close to what the atlanta fan base is saying on forums like this) said today in fansided that most Atlanta fans would prefer to see DLO in a deal for Collins, but admitted he saw that as a pipe dream. Just because he reports Atlanta fans want it and T-Wolves fans like Lip and I want it, it's still not likely to happen. Sign and trade deals just aren't that prevalent.
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Personally I think Orlando's price tag for Gordon is higher than anyone in this forum is willing to pay. Maybe they have come down off what it was this offseason but if they haven't I would pass and not give acquiring Gordon a 2nd thought.
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monsterpile wrote:Personally I think Orlando's price tag for Gordon is higher than anyone in this forum is willing to pay. Maybe they have come down off what it was this offseason but if they haven't I would pass and not give acquiring Gordon a 2nd thought.


Oh, I agree, monster...they probably overvalue their guys as much as we do! I'm just reporting the most I would give up to get Gordon, and admitting it almost certainly falls short.
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I for one love ORL as a trade partner. Something like BRR/JO/draft considerations (or just BRR/JC) for AG/MO. Yes Please. Very Post-heavy team that needs guards.
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The Orlando Magic are believed to be seeking a "young player or players, a draft pick" and matching salary in return for forward Aaron Gordon, the Denver Post's Mike Singer reported Friday.

Michael Scotto of Hoops Hype reported a similar Orlando asking price for Gordon: a first-round pick and a "good young player."

Link: https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/nba-rumors-asking-price-celtics-trade-target-aaron-gordon-revealed



This shouldn't surprise anyone here since we've been talking about this situation playing out for months now. But I'll be upset if Minnesota ends up trading away Jaylen Nowell, Naz Reid, Jaden McDaniels, or a first-round pick in a deal for Aaron Gordon. He's just not a player worth that kind of return. I'll also admit that those three aren't blue chip prospects by any means and I'm more keen on the idea of trading picks than others here. Basically, I wouldn't be able to make a trade for him since I wouldn't part with those assets.

I just don't see a trade for Gordon that involves a young player and a first-round pick that I think the Wolves win. But I will mention that it's entirely possible Gersson Rosas trades Ricky Rubio, Jaylen Nowell, and their 2024 first-round pick for Gordon in which I'll be livid.
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Camden wrote:
The Orlando Magic are believed to be seeking a "young player or players, a draft pick" and matching salary in return for forward Aaron Gordon, the Denver Post's Mike Singer reported Friday.

Michael Scotto of Hoops Hype reported a similar Orlando asking price for Gordon: a first-round pick and a "good young player."

Link: https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/nba-rumors-asking-price-celtics-trade-target-aaron-gordon-revealed



This shouldn't surprise anyone here since we've been talking about this situation playing out for months now. But I'll be upset if Minnesota ends up trading away Jaylen Nowell, Naz Reid, Jaden McDaniels, or a first-round pick in a deal for Aaron Gordon. He's just not a player worth that kind of return. I'll also admit that those three aren't blue chip prospects by any means and I'm more keen on the idea of trading picks than others here. Basically, I wouldn't be able to make a trade for him since I wouldn't part with those assets.

I just don't see a trade for Gordon that involves a young player and a first-round pick that I think the Wolves win. But I will mention that it's entirely possible Gersson Rosas trades Ricky Rubio, Jaylen Nowell, and their 2024 first-round pick for Gordon in which I'll be livid.


How about Ricky, Culver and a lottery-protected 2024 first round pick that converts to a 2nd round pick in 2026? Not sure I'm keen on that deal. I'd probably do the deal if the future pick were just a 2nd rounder.
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Gordon with 38pts on 7-8 3pt shooting
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