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Oliver Miller and Corey Brewer

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Oliver Miller is the fattest player in NBA history

Corey Brewer has the second worst 3-point percentage by a player who shot at least 1000 3's in NBA history, only bested by Charles Barkley
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That factoid about Corey Brewer doesn't surprise me. He shot 28.4-percent for his career on 1,774 attempts, which is amazingly bad-yet-hilarious. In looking at his player profile a few things stood out to me. His third year in the league he shot a career-high 34.6-percent on 237 attempts! League average that year was 35.5-percent. Brewer was almost there. Ha!

His 51-point game will always be a mystery to me. Where did that even come from? And despite being the best Wolves player on the court that night he put up a measly plus-five -- bested by his fellow starters: Gorgui Dieng (plus-16), Dante Cunningham (plus-11), Ricky Rubio (plus-10), and Robbie Hummel (plus-eight). Dammit, Corey...
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These 2 players will always be guys I remember fondly. I just enjoyed the things they did well more than the things they couldn't do.
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I always liked Brewer's energy and sunny disposition. It's too bad that he never really developed into what many of us thought was his full potential. He's also yet another Wolves draft pick that showed potential as a college shooter (career 36% on 278 attempts at Florida) but never developed a reliable NBA 3-point shot as indicated by the dubious distinction that Bloop posted.

Guys like Rubio, Dunn, Okogie, and Culver have since been added to the list of franchise failures in shooting development. Nowell appears to be the latest victim....
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Q12543 wrote:I always liked Brewer's energy and sunny disposition. It's too bad that he never really developed into what many of us thought was his full potential. He's also yet another Wolves draft pick that showed potential as a college shooter (career 36% on 278 attempts at Florida) but never developed a reliable NBA 3-point shot as indicated by the dubious distinction that Bloop posted.

Guys like Rubio, Dunn, Okogie, and Culver have since been added to the list of franchise failures in shooting development. Nowell appears to be the latest victim....


It makes it all the more surprising to see fans clamoring for a guy that can't shoot a lick after the failures of prior players and the subsequent failures of the team because of the expectation that those players would improve. How many times are we gonna keep putting our hands back in the fire?
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Corey Brewer. To this day, my favorite Timberwolf ever. Hands down. I love that dude. Not a great player. Not even a good one, actually. Most of the time he looked like he was only halfway in control of his own body. But I can't think of another guy whose effort so far outstripped his talent, and who played with the kind of joy he exuded. All in a toothpick-skinny frame. Watching him play, it honestly made me feel good to be alive.
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PorkChop wrote:
Q12543 wrote:I always liked Brewer's energy and sunny disposition. It's too bad that he never really developed into what many of us thought was his full potential. He's also yet another Wolves draft pick that showed potential as a college shooter (career 36% on 278 attempts at Florida) but never developed a reliable NBA 3-point shot as indicated by the dubious distinction that Bloop posted.

Guys like Rubio, Dunn, Okogie, and Culver have since been added to the list of franchise failures in shooting development. Nowell appears to be the latest victim....


It makes it all the more surprising to see fans clamoring for a guy that can't shoot a lick after the failures of prior players and the subsequent failures of the team because of the expectation that those players would improve. How many times are we gonna keep putting our hands back in the fire?


How many of the aforementioned poor shooters are 6'11, 240-pounds with court vision and a near elite handle? How many of them were as threatening as Ben Simmons in the open court? I get your point, but Simmons is a different beast entirely.
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SameOldNudityDrew wrote:Corey Brewer. To this day, my favorite Timberwolf ever. Hands down. I love that dude. Not a great player. Not even a good one, actually. Most of the time he looked like he was only halfway in control of his own body. But I can't think of another guy whose effort so far outstripped his talent, and who played with the kind of joy he exuded. All in a toothpick-skinny frame. Watching him play, it honestly made me feel good to be alive.

I really liked him too, despite his limitations. He was a fun guy to root for.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:
SameOldNudityDrew wrote:Corey Brewer. To this day, my favorite Timberwolf ever. Hands down. I love that dude. Not a great player. Not even a good one, actually. Most of the time he looked like he was only halfway in control of his own body. But I can't think of another guy whose effort so far outstripped his talent, and who played with the kind of joy he exuded. All in a toothpick-skinny frame. Watching him play, it honestly made me feel good to be alive.

I really liked him too, despite his limitations. He was a fun guy to root for.


He did also have elite hands taking the ball from people.

I wonder if Brewer is a guy that will get into coaching someday. He seems like a guy that would be fun to be around whatever he is doing.

This is kind of a fun article with Brewer talking about guarding the best players in the game. Brewer wasn't a great defender (or maybe even good) but it's interesting to hear a guy's take especially someone who played for quite a while through a couple eras.

https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/nba-corey-brewer-guarding-stars-lebron-james-giannis-antetokounmpo-james-harden-kevin-durant-stephen-curry-damian-lillard-russell-westbrook-kawhi-leonard-carmelo-anthony
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Q12543 wrote:I always liked Brewer's energy and sunny disposition. It's too bad that he never really developed into what many of us thought was his full potential. He's also yet another Wolves draft pick that showed potential as a college shooter (career 36% on 278 attempts at Florida) but never developed a reliable NBA 3-point shot as indicated by the dubious distinction that Bloop posted.

Guys like Rubio, Dunn, Okogie, and Culver have since been added to the list of franchise failures in shooting development. Nowell appears to be the latest victim....


Q, there's no question that this franchise has had terrible success in improving shooters, and you have named some great examples. But let's consider the possibility that recent history shows we have completely changed in this area. You mention Nowell, and I admit he is a headscratcher. But I will argue every other player getting significant minutes the past two years has greatly improved his 3-point shooting since he became a T-Wolf. Let's go player by player:

KAT: Hardly shot a three in college, and only made 25% of them. But he is now arguably the best shooting big man in the league

Dlo: He was a below average 3-point shooter before coming here, but last year he was an excellent 39.7%.

Ant: He shot 29.4% in college, but was significantly better his rookie year. His second half percentage was close to the league average, something few of us would have predicted watching him in college.

Beasley: A 33% 3-point shooter his first two years in the league and still only a 36% shooter his last half year with Denver. He has become a 40%+ 3-point shooter since coming to Minnesota.

Jaden: Only a 33.9% 3-point shooter in college, he improved to 36.4% after moving back to the NBA line his rookie year, and showed promise in Summer League of getting even better.

Naz: He only made 33% of his 3's in college, but he made 35% of his threes last year and actually looks reliable beyond the arc.

Juancho: A poor 3-point shooter with Denver, he made 42% on almost 5 attempts per game after his trade to the Wolves (he did of course regress to his mean last year).


That's impressive improvement from the 5 guys expected to start next year, plus the first two guys coming off the bench. Do we now have to change our tune, and describe Minnesota now as the place to come if you want to become a better 3-point shooter? The evidence is overwhelming! Just imagine what a sharpshooter Ben Simmons will become when he finally arrives at the 3-point Mecca!
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