Wiggins Trade Deadline Deals

[Lipoli390]

OK, we've pretty much exhausted the Covington trade thread. The more I reflect, the more inclined I am to want to keep Covington - unless the Wolves get an offer they can't reasonably refuse. At the same time, I'm more convinced that the Wolves should trade Wiggins by the deadline while his value is at a higher level than it's been in quite some time. His numbers today against the Rockets were terrible. I also noticed that he's starting to take more long twos the last few games. I seem him regressing. And even at his best, he's not enough and clearly isn't worth his contract.

So let's explore some possible/realistic trades for Wiggins. Right now, I think Charlotte is the team most likely to deal for Wiggins. How about Wiggins and Treveon Graham for Batum, Charlotte's Graham, Charlotte's 2020 top 4 protected 1st and the Cavs' 2020 2nd round pick. I'd do the deal even if we didn't get Graham in return. We'd get immediate salary savings and also save two years of Wiggins' salary.

[Hicks123 [enjin:6700838]]

I think the fact that everything is so wide open from a playoff standpoint will help Wolves find deals for Wiggins, Teague or Cov.

Was thinking OKC may be a good landing spot for a guy like Wiggins. They find themselves competitive, and they have 3 good PG on their roster.

Wiggins/Graham for Schroder/Roberson. Seems like a deal that works for both teams.

[Wolvesfan21]

I'd pull the trigger on it. I still doubt Wiggins long term ability to stay even at his earlier season level.

Ideas-

1.) Wiggins and the Wolves next year top 4 protected 1st pick for Bradley Beal?

2.) Wiggins and the Wolves next two top 5 protected picks for Devin Booker?

3.) Wiggins for Harrison Barnes and Sacramentos next years 1st round pick top 3 protected?

4.) Wiggins for DLO?

5.) Wiggins for Otto Porter and Chicagos next years 1st top 4 protected?

6.) Wiggins for Kevin Love and Clevelands next two 1sts top 4 protected?

[Lipoli390]

I'd pull the trigger on it. I still doubt Wiggins long term ability to stay even at his earlier season level.

Ideas-

1.) Wiggins and the Wolves next year top 4 protected 1st pick for Bradley Beal?

2.) Wiggins and the Wolves next two top 5 protected picks for Devin Booker?

3.) Wiggins for Harrison Barnes and Sacramentos next years 1st round pick top 3 protected?

4.) Wiggins for DLO?

5.) Wiggins for Otto Porter and Chicagos next years 1st top 4 protected?

6.) Wiggins for Kevin Love and Clevelands next two 1sts top 4 protected?

WolvesFan21 - That deal for Beal would be an incredible coup for the Wolves. I like all your proposed deals.

[Wolvesfan21]

Wiggins for CJ McCollum.

[AbeVigodaLive]

OK, we've pretty much exhausted the Covington trade thread. The more I reflect, the more inclined I am to want to keep Covington - unless the Wolves get an offer they can't reasonably refuse. At the same time, I'm more convinced that the Wolves should trade Wiggins by the deadline while his value is at a higher level than it's been in quite some time. His numbers today against the Rockets were terrible. I also noticed that he's starting to take more long twos the last few games. I seem him regressing. And even at his best, he's not enough and clearly isn't worth his contract.

So let's explore some possible/realistic trades for Wiggins. Right now, I think Charlotte is the team most likely to deal for Wiggins. How about Wiggins and Treveon Graham for Batum, Charlotte's Graham, Charlotte's 2020 top 4 protected 1st and the Cavs' 2020 2nd round pick. I'd do the deal even if we didn't get Graham in return. We'd get immediate salary savings and also save two years of Wiggins' salary.

Well... that's an increase in value.

It was only a few months ago when I suggested a Wiggins for Batum trade straight up. Wiggins has shown signs... Batum has been abysmal. He's in full Mike Miller mode... sans any accuracy.

5.8 ppg
6.6 reb
4.7 apg
36.8%
... but that's PER 36. Terrible.

The question is whether Charlotte thinks they can get more from his large ($27M) expiring deal next year. In that case, I don't see Charlotte giving up a lottery pick in the deal.

[Lipoli390]

OK, we've pretty much exhausted the Covington trade thread. The more I reflect, the more inclined I am to want to keep Covington - unless the Wolves get an offer they can't reasonably refuse. At the same time, I'm more convinced that the Wolves should trade Wiggins by the deadline while his value is at a higher level than it's been in quite some time. His numbers today against the Rockets were terrible. I also noticed that he's starting to take more long twos the last few games. I seem him regressing. And even at his best, he's not enough and clearly isn't worth his contract.

So let's explore some possible/realistic trades for Wiggins. Right now, I think Charlotte is the team most likely to deal for Wiggins. How about Wiggins and Treveon Graham for Batum, Charlotte's Graham, Charlotte's 2020 top 4 protected 1st and the Cavs' 2020 2nd round pick. I'd do the deal even if we didn't get Graham in return. We'd get immediate salary savings and also save two years of Wiggins' salary.

Well... that's an increase in value.

It was only a few months ago when I suggested a Wiggins for Batum trade straight up. Wiggins has shown signs... Batum has been abysmal. He's in full Mike Miller mode... sans any accuracy.

5.8 ppg
6.6 reb
4.7 apg
36.8%
... but that's PER 36. Terrible.

The question is whether Charlotte thinks they can get more from his large ($27M) expiring deal next year. In that case, I don't see Charlotte giving up a lottery pick in the deal.

Batum' s deal isn't expiring. His contract runs through next season. Wiggins has been playing well, Batum horribly. Wiggins has 4 years left, Batum 2. Wiggins still has youth and upside. As I see it, Batum is part of the deal only for salary-match purposes. The keys are getting draft assets and also possibly getting Graham, who would give us a legitimate young PG and 3-point shooter in one package. If Graham weren't included, I'm confident the Hornets would include their 2020 1st round pick if top 4 protected along with the Cavs 2nd round pick they own. They're in the hunt for a playoff birth in the East and swapping Batum for Wiggins would probably be enough to push the Hornets across the threshold while also giving them upside for the future.

By the say, if the Hornets wouldn't give us Graham, I'd insist on also getting the Hornets' 2022 first round pick (top 4 protected) along with their 2020 first round pick and the Cavs 2nd round pick - with Batum coming here for salary purposes.

[AbeVigodaLive]

OK, we've pretty much exhausted the Covington trade thread. The more I reflect, the more inclined I am to want to keep Covington - unless the Wolves get an offer they can't reasonably refuse. At the same time, I'm more convinced that the Wolves should trade Wiggins by the deadline while his value is at a higher level than it's been in quite some time. His numbers today against the Rockets were terrible. I also noticed that he's starting to take more long twos the last few games. I seem him regressing. And even at his best, he's not enough and clearly isn't worth his contract.

So let's explore some possible/realistic trades for Wiggins. Right now, I think Charlotte is the team most likely to deal for Wiggins. How about Wiggins and Treveon Graham for Batum, Charlotte's Graham, Charlotte's 2020 top 4 protected 1st and the Cavs' 2020 2nd round pick. I'd do the deal even if we didn't get Graham in return. We'd get immediate salary savings and also save two years of Wiggins' salary.

Well... that's an increase in value.

It was only a few months ago when I suggested a Wiggins for Batum trade straight up. Wiggins has shown signs... Batum has been abysmal. He's in full Mike Miller mode... sans any accuracy.

5.8 ppg
6.6 reb
4.7 apg
36.8%
... but that's PER 36. Terrible.

The question is whether Charlotte thinks they can get more from his large ($27M) expiring deal next year. In that case, I don't see Charlotte giving up a lottery pick in the deal.

Batum' s deal isn't expiring. His contract runs through next season. Wiggins has been playing well, Batum horribly. Wiggins has 4 years left, Batum 2. Wiggins still has youth and upside. As I see it, Batum is part of the deal only for salary-match purposes. The keys are getting draft assets and also possibly getting Graham, who would give us a legitimate young PG and 3-point shooter in one package. If Graham weren't included, I'm confident the Hornets would include their 2020 1st round pick if top 4 protected along with the Cavs 2nd round pick they own. They're in the hunt for a playoff birth in the East and swapping Batum for Wiggins would probably be enough to push the Hornets across the threshold while also giving them upside for the future.

I just don't know if "youth" really works with Wiggins anymore. It's year 6.

Yes. I know Batum's deal expires next season. And yes... it's simply salary filler, or when I first suggested it... a way to get off of Wiggins deal earlier. I don't see Charlotte in a panic at the moment to make the playoffs this season. But maybe if they linger a bit longer...?

Is Wiggins anything more than a largely inefficient scorer... after 5.5 seasons? Does he help teams win games? A 23+ ppg guy could be worth a lottery pick (and other valuable stuff) for those thinking he could keep it up or even improve. Maybe. Hopefully. But I don't know.

The one thing I do like about any such deal... keep targeting the Charlottes and Sacramentos of the world. They're usually pretty awful with this stuff.

[worldK]

OK, we've pretty much exhausted the Covington trade thread. The more I reflect, the more inclined I am to want to keep Covington - unless the Wolves get an offer they can't reasonably refuse. At the same time, I'm more convinced that the Wolves should trade Wiggins by the deadline while his value is at a higher level than it's been in quite some time. His numbers today against the Rockets were terrible. I also noticed that he's starting to take more long twos the last few games. I seem him regressing. And even at his best, he's not enough and clearly isn't worth his contract.

So let's explore some possible/realistic trades for Wiggins. Right now, I think Charlotte is the team most likely to deal for Wiggins. How about Wiggins and Treveon Graham for Batum, Charlotte's Graham, Charlotte's 2020 top 4 protected 1st and the Cavs' 2020 2nd round pick. I'd do the deal even if we didn't get Graham in return. We'd get immediate salary savings and also save two years of Wiggins' salary.

Well... that's an increase in value.

It was only a few months ago when I suggested a Wiggins for Batum trade straight up. Wiggins has shown signs... Batum has been abysmal. He's in full Mike Miller mode... sans any accuracy.

5.8 ppg
6.6 reb
4.7 apg
36.8%
... but that's PER 36. Terrible.

The question is whether Charlotte thinks they can get more from his large ($27M) expiring deal next year. In that case, I don't see Charlotte giving up a lottery pick in the deal.

Batum' s deal isn't expiring. His contract runs through next season. Wiggins has been playing well, Batum horribly. Wiggins has 4 years left, Batum 2. Wiggins still has youth and upside. As I see it, Batum is part of the deal only for salary-match purposes. The keys are getting draft assets and also possibly getting Graham, who would give us a legitimate young PG and 3-point shooter in one package. If Graham weren't included, I'm confident the Hornets would include their 2020 1st round pick if top 4 protected along with the Cavs 2nd round pick they own. They're in the hunt for a playoff birth in the East and swapping Batum for Wiggins would probably be enough to push the Hornets across the threshold while also giving them upside for the future.

By the say, if the Hornets wouldn't give us Graham, I'd insist on also getting the Hornets' 2022 first round pick (top 4 protected) along with their 2020 first round pick and the Cavs 2nd round pick - with Batum coming here for salary purposes.

The hornets will never trade devonte graham this season. He is the biggest reason why they are in the playoffs hunt and he is the biggest surprise this season so far and locked in for a year more at a 2nd round pick salary.

While im sure they would swap batum for wiggins in a heartbeat, they may not include more than 1 first. Perhaps a first and the cavs second as lip suggested but will that be enough for us? I would say wig push them to the playoffs so were looking at a non lotto pick and cavs 2nd round pick in return. I'l turn that deal down as wiggins might be worth more to us now than what we can get in a trade. batum's negative value is going to hurt the team.

[WildWolf2813]

OK, we've pretty much exhausted the Covington trade thread. The more I reflect, the more inclined I am to want to keep Covington - unless the Wolves get an offer they can't reasonably refuse. At the same time, I'm more convinced that the Wolves should trade Wiggins by the deadline while his value is at a higher level than it's been in quite some time. His numbers today against the Rockets were terrible. I also noticed that he's starting to take more long twos the last few games. I seem him regressing. And even at his best, he's not enough and clearly isn't worth his contract.

So let's explore some possible/realistic trades for Wiggins. Right now, I think Charlotte is the team most likely to deal for Wiggins. How about Wiggins and Treveon Graham for Batum, Charlotte's Graham, Charlotte's 2020 top 4 protected 1st and the Cavs' 2020 2nd round pick. I'd do the deal even if we didn't get Graham in return. We'd get immediate salary savings and also save two years of Wiggins' salary.

Well... that's an increase in value.

It was only a few months ago when I suggested a Wiggins for Batum trade straight up. Wiggins has shown signs... Batum has been abysmal. He's in full Mike Miller mode... sans any accuracy.

5.8 ppg
6.6 reb
4.7 apg
36.8%
... but that's PER 36. Terrible.

The question is whether Charlotte thinks they can get more from his large ($27M) expiring deal next year. In that case, I don't see Charlotte giving up a lottery pick in the deal.

Batum' s deal isn't expiring. His contract runs through next season. Wiggins has been playing well, Batum horribly. Wiggins has 4 years left, Batum 2. Wiggins still has youth and upside. As I see it, Batum is part of the deal only for salary-match purposes. The keys are getting draft assets and also possibly getting Graham, who would give us a legitimate young PG and 3-point shooter in one package. If Graham weren't included, I'm confident the Hornets would include their 2020 1st round pick if top 4 protected along with the Cavs 2nd round pick they own. They're in the hunt for a playoff birth in the East and swapping Batum for Wiggins would probably be enough to push the Hornets across the threshold while also giving them upside for the future.

By the say, if the Hornets wouldn't give us Graham, I'd insist on also getting the Hornets' 2022 first round pick (top 4 protected) along with their 2020 first round pick and the Cavs 2nd round pick - with Batum coming here for salary purposes.

Charlotte's not giving you 2 firsts for what is still a really bad contract. Wiggins has had to do a lot just to make it seem reasonable that they'd give you Batum and a 2nd for him. They're not gonna give you more than that since Devonte Graham is more of a driving force to their success than Wiggins could ever be.


We're stuck with Wiggins.