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I mean these playoffs have been a joke on that side. Cavs are good but they are not this good no competition at all. Then you think of next year Horford is a free agent. Derozan, is a free agent. Bush might be forced to retire and Whiteside is a free agent (might be overrated but still). The bulls have gasol and noah as free agents. Hornets have Batum, Jefferson and lin free agents. How bad will the east get
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Well, you have 4 dominant teams that make the rest of the league seem weak, though 3 of those teams are in the west. But in spots 4 thru 8, the east may be better than the west or at least its equal. Looking ahead three years, the team I most fear in the east is Boston.
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TeamRicky wrote:Well, you have 4 dominant teams that make the rest of the league seem weak, though 3 of those teams are in the west. But in spots 4 thru 8, the east may be better than the west or at least its equal. Looking ahead three years, the team I most fear in the east is Boston.


I mean the clips would be easily the second best team in the east if not the best. Blazers would be a top 3 team and even though they were bad this year the 8 seed rockets played in the WCF last year
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The East is pathetic. It's the Cavs and everyone else. Golden State is clearly the best team in the West, but there are at least two maybe three teams in the West that could upset them -- the Thunder, the Spurs and maybe even the Clippers if healthy. The Clippers and even the Blazers would would at least give the Cavs a battle.

The Sixers and Celtics have the potential to become really good, but we'll see.

The West will remain tough for years. The Warriors and Thunder are loaded and still young. The Spurs will always find a way. Portland is up and coming with a very smart front office and great head coach. And you can't write off the Pelicans as long as they have Anthony Davis to build around. Then you have the Lakers with Clarkson, Randle, Russell and probably Ingram to build around not to mention the eventual arrival of Sacre. They also have a ton of cap space and the attractive allure of being the Lakers. So the Wolves need to be smart and not make dumb short-sighted moves that compromise the long-term horizon of this team.
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Lip I hope you were joking about Robert Sacre, he will be luck to get game time for the LA Defenders In the D League lol.

I think the Magic and Bucks deserve a mention of being potential threats in the east in a few years time. Philly are stacked with big men, but not much else and at this stage are probably the least appealing team for FA to sign with. They are still 5 years away from being relevant.
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kekgeek1 wrote:
TeamRicky wrote:Well, you have 4 dominant teams that make the rest of the league seem weak, though 3 of those teams are in the west. But in spots 4 thru 8, the east may be better than the west or at least its equal. Looking ahead three years, the team I most fear in the east is Boston.


I mean the clips would be easily the second best team in the east if not the best. Blazers would be a top 3 team and even though they were bad this year the 8 seed rockets played in the WCF last year


If you go by records this year and add up the records of the playoff teams in spots 4-8, the East has 11 more wins and the West has 11 more losses. I agree that the Clippers are better than most teams in East but both the Cavs and Raptors had a better record so I don't agree that they would easily be the second best team with Blake's injury this year. Blazers would be tied for 8th spot in the East with their record and if they lost the tiebreaker they would be out. of the playoffs. Also, the Blazers are only .500 against East teams this year, so to say they would be third in the East is a huge stretch.

Spots 5-8 in the West are weaker recordwise across the board. Hey the West has been dominant for so many years, but the West is weakening except at the top with GS, OKC and SA.
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The weird thing about the east this year is...a bunch of teams just weren't as good as youbwpuldbhave expected them to be. Chicago had more injuries and Hoiberg wasn't as good of a coach as Thibs. Wizards had some injuries too and just fell apart for some reason. The Raptors...um I don't know what happened there because they added a couple nice pieces in Carrol and Cory Joseph (I'm not sure they win one series without him) and I know they don't have one of those top shelf starts but that's a really nice team on paper they just haven't played well consistently. Bosh got hurt again. Sure every team has injuries and every conference has some klunkers (heck the Bucks fell off the map too) but the east was just dissappointing and some of it has no real complete explanation.
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lipoli390 wrote:The East is pathetic. It's the Cavs and everyone else. Golden State is clearly the best team in the West, but there are at least two maybe three teams in the West that could upset them -- the Thunder, the Spurs and maybe even the Clippers if healthy. The Clippers and even the Blazers would would at least give the Cavs a battle.

The Sixers and Celtics have the potential to become really good, but we'll see.

The West will remain tough for years. The Warriors and Thunder are loaded and still young. The Spurs will always find a way. Portland is up and coming with a very smart front office and great head coach. And you can't write off the Pelicans as long as they have Anthony Davis to build around. Then you have the Lakers with Clarkson, Randle, Russell and probably Ingram to build around not to mention the eventual arrival of Sacre. They also have a ton of cap space and the attractive allure of being the Lakers. So the Wolves need to be smart and not make dumb short-sighted moves that compromise the long-term horizon of this team.


I agree that the West will continue to be tough at the top, but that the quality depth has eroded recently. The East has been narrowing the gap except at the very top. Remember the days when East Teams that were under .500 made the playoffs. Those days seem over. The Warriors and OKC are elite teams as long as Curry and Durant are healthy. SA will take a hit when Duncan, Parker and Manu exit. The Wolves and Utah are rising. I think the Clippers have peaked with CP3 in his 30s. I think Portland has plateaued with their talent. Memphis and Dallas are on the decline. Houston-who knows how they'll do after Howard leaves. Phoenix may become the new Philly. Lakers have a long rebuild. The Kings and Pelicans are one star teams that will struggle to play .500. Nuggets might be on the rise but I don't see any elite talent there.
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KiwiMatt wrote:Lip I hope you were joking about Robert Sacre, he will be luck to get game time for the LA Defenders In the D League lol.

I think the Magic and Bucks deserve a mention of being potential threats in the east in a few years time. Philly are stacked with big men, but not much else and at this stage are probably the least appealing team for FA to sign with. They are still 5 years away from being relevant.


I feel like the magic and the bucks are in a bad place yes they have a young potential and they will probably both make the playoffs for years to come. But they both don't have a superstar, yes Greek freak could get there but don't think he will ever be the guy on a championship team. Now they are both average and will get better ruining their chance at another superstar via the draft
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TeamRicky wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:
TeamRicky wrote:Well, you have 4 dominant teams that make the rest of the league seem weak, though 3 of those teams are in the west. But in spots 4 thru 8, the east may be better than the west or at least its equal. Looking ahead three years, the team I most fear in the east is Boston.


I mean the clips would be easily the second best team in the east if not the best. Blazers would be a top 3 team and even though they were bad this year the 8 seed rockets played in the WCF last year


If you go by records this year and add up the records of the playoff teams in spots 4-8, the East has 11 more wins and the West has 11 more losses. I agree that the Clippers are better than most teams in East but both the Cavs and Raptors had a better record so I don't agree that they would easily be the second best team with Blake's injury this year. Blazers would be tied for 8th spot in the East with their record and if they lost the tiebreaker they would be out. of the playoffs. Also, the Blazers are only .500 against East teams this year, so to say they would be third in the East is a huge stretch.

Spots 5-8 in the West are weaker recordwise across the board. Hey the West has been dominant for so many years, but the West is weakening except at the top with GS, OKC and SA.


Fair point but were east teams decimated by injuries as bad as the west (honestly idk). But blake, the whole grizzlies team, every point guard and parsons on the Mavs. Cousins in the kings, Gordon, Evans and Davis for the pelicans.

Heat and bulls got hurt by injuries but that is the only teams off the top of my head that got hurt by injuries (I might be way off on this I didn't research).

So a un researched theory the east and west data might have been skewed
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