Boston-Philly Swap

[SameOldNudityDrew]

Wow, that's interesting, and it makes sense for both teams, especially Boston, IMO.

I really like how Boston has played this. They still get a guy who is also really good but who is a much better fit than Fultz AND they get another high first rounder to add to the other Nets pick they having coming.

First, Jackson is a great fit there, assuming that's who they're going with. Not only does this avoid the IT/Fultz redundancy problem--which would have been a HUGE problem in the near future (one of those guys would definitely be gone soon), but Jackson's defense should help that team even more to address IT's defensive weaknesses, and his passing fits well with a pretty diverse team, and he's such a great fit for the existing team culture and intensity. Plus, that team's defense could be insane. They could trot out Bradley, Smart, Brown/Crowder, Jackson, and Horford and just suck the oxygen for other's team's offense right out of the room. The drawback with Jackson is that they also need another go-to scorer . . .

. . . which is why Tatum could actually make sense there as well! I could see that working well too, giving that team a bit more balance between defense and offense. See, I'm not a Tatum hater!

What's most crazy is the extra pick. They're going to be a top team in the East, adding a top player in the draft this year, and still adding yet ANOTHER top pick on top of the Nets pick they already have coming. That's so many assets they could use to keep building or for trading for a star if/when the time comes.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

I'm not so sure.....While I get that the NBA is going smaller and "position-less", do you really want to trot out a bunch of 5'9 to 6'7 guys out there?

Boston wants to win titles. That's what their fans expect. They had the chance to draft a big, strong, scoring lead guard. They need a clear #1 guy that isn't an obvious mismatch on the other end of the court. I realize this would have made things awkward with IT, but it's clear to me he is not the long term answer IF they are interested in winning titles. I'm not sure Josh Jackson is either.....

[Monster]

Drew DX has Tatum going to the Celtics in their mock. :)

[Lipoli390]

Yes, interesting trade.

I see it as a great trade for the Sixers since they can now add a potential franchise type player and score to an already talented young roster. Fultz the scorer will fit well next to the playmaking Simmons.

I think it's also a good trade for Boston. They'll get a potentially great player at #3 and receive yet another high first round pick next year or the year after. It seems clear to me that Danny Ainge is accumulating draft assets for a possible deal for an elite player down the road. That's what he did to get KG.

This deal is a great example of the value of 1st round picks and why they should be treated like gold. Sadly, the Wolves front offices through the years have never appreciated that value. The Wolves should have kept the Miami 1st round pick from Cleveland in the Wiggins deal rather than using it to get Thad Young. Even better if they would have gotten another future 1st in that deal rather than the bust first rounder from the year before. Flip never should have given a future 1st for Payne. Danny Ainge put it best when he said that draft picks are great assets which, unlike players, can always be traded. I'd add that 1st round picks tend to have trade value that substantially exceeds the players likely to be drafted with those picks.

The Sixers with Fultz, Simmons, Embiid, Okafor, Saric and Covington have a fantastic young core. And they still have all of their own 1st round picks in future years. That's how you build a franchise. The Celtics have a young team with the best regular season on the East, but still have a bevy of future 1st round picks, including their own. The Wolves as a 31-win team have no second round picks this year nad don't have their own 1st or 2nd round picks next years (although we keep our 1st if we don't make the playoffs). Thankfully, we have Towns, Wiggins, LaVine and Dunn. So we do have a really nice young core that I still believe in. But we need to draft well this year because we don't have a bevy of assets in the future.

[Monster]

Yes, interesting trade.

I see it as a great trade for the Sixers since they can now add a potential franchise type player and score to an already talented young roster. Fultz the scorer will fit well next to the playmaking Simmons.

I think it's also a good trade for Boston. They'll get a potentially great player at #3 and receive yet another high first round pick next year or the year after. It seems clear to me that Danny Ainge is accumulating draft assets for a possible deal for an elite player down the road. That's what he did to get KG.

This deal is a great example of the value of 1st round picks and why they should be treated like gold. Sadly, the Wolves front offices through the years have never appreciated that value. The Wolves should have kept the Miami 1st round pick from Cleveland in the Wiggins deal rather than using it to get Thad Young. Even better if they would have gotten another future 1st in that deal rather than the bust first rounder from the year before. Flip never should have given a future 1st for Payne. Danny Ainge put it best when he said that draft picks are great assets which, unlike players, can always be traded. I'd add that 1st round picks tend to have trade value that substantially exceeds the players likely to be drafted with those picks.

The Sixers with Fultz, Simmons, Embiid, Okafor, Saric and Covington have a fantastic young core. And they still have all of their own 1st round picks in future years. That's how you build a franchise. The Celtics have a young team with the best regular season on the East, but still have a bevy of future 1st round picks, including their own. The Wolves as a 31-win team have no second round picks this year nad don't have their own 1st or 2nd round picks next years (although we keep our 1st if we don't make the playoffs). Thankfully, we have Towns, Wiggins, LaVine and Dunn. So we do have a really nice young core that I still believe in. But we need to draft well this year because we don't have a bevy of assets in the future.

Getting Thad for a 1st rounder wasn't a bad idea. He wa a young legit player and if the Wolves would have wanted to move him for a 1st they could have likely done it. Heck he turns 29 in a few days and he wouldn't look bad on this roster actually if we had kept him. But we know how it all turned out and to be fair maybe those transactions leading to KG being here would have worked out well for the Wolves if Flip was still around.

Ainge is in a good spot. He can use those assets to go get an established player or just keep building through the draft like it's a young rebuilding team while being a team that's a top playoff team in their conference. Ainge didn't nail all his moves when he built his last Championship but he drafted well enough to have lots of assets to make his moves. I'd be interested to see if they just keep building with young players.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I think Boston is just adding too many cooks to the kitchen. Adding Jackson knocks down Crowder and Brown and it makes it awkward to try to bring in Hayward this summer when your two best young assets play the same position as Hayward. I just think they keep adding more assets with no real vision to how this team is built. I think they are just perpetually waiting for star players with these drafts picks and then when they finally can get one they pass because of IT and potentially add a guy at an already stacked position. If I were them I would have cleared a contract off the books to open the max cap space (that they apparently now have because of this trade), drafted Fultz and then if you actually land Hayward you flip Fultz, Brown, cap filler and a pick for Jimmy Butler. Then you have a real team that can compete. Or you can just keep Fultz trade away a contract like Crowder with ease and bring in Hayward protecting your long-term future and getting better now. I think in 3 years they're gonna look back on this deal and realize they messed it up because of all the options it would haven given them to either really propel them to contender status or protect their future beyond 3 years with a star PG in a PG driven league.

[Hicks123 [enjin:6700838]]

Yeah, I kind of get it for both teams....but I don't believe you ever trade away a guy seen as the clear cut number 1 choice in a draft as strong as this one. I just don't believe in guys like Jackson as much as many.

And with Boston, it would seem that Fultz and IT could play together immediately. Based on DX, he has a longer wingspan and standing reach than guys like Kennard and Hart....both of whom are adequate size for SG spot. Fultz wingspan and standing reach are in line with a guys like Terrance Ferguson, who is projected to be a SF. While I like love Boston's team, they have an extremely small backcourt, and need some size.

I think this is a mistake, and one that Phili is going to rejoice in for many, many years.

[Papalrep]

Boston Board on RealGM is fun LOL

Was anyone else very concerned by the Tweets that the PG logjam actually played a part in Ainge deciding to trade Fultz? I'm not sure I can handle the knowledge that we passed on a potential stud because of an aging midget who we are now almost certainly about to overpay?

Ainge is a moron. He just traded a future all-star, maybe super-star for 2 role players. Fire that ego maniac.

[Papalrep]

Boom! More from Boston, this is too close to home!

Any chance we can trade al for KAT?

Come on genius danny. I know you have it in you.
Danny Ainge will not see the dawn of 6/17/20 As Celtics gm!

#fireainge

[Monster]

I dare you to post and mention that trade Ainge made trading #7 (which the Blazers traded to select Roy) for Telfair. Lol