ROCO and DPOY
- crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]
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ROCO and DPOY
Its starting to pick up steam.
https://fansided.com/2018/12/05/robert-covington-unique-defensive-player-year-candidate/
"He leads the NBA steals at 2.3 per game -- it's up to 2.8 since joining the Minnesota Timberwolves 10 games ago -- and is 16th in blocks at 1.5. The only other players who sit among the top 20 in both categories are Anthony Davis and Marc Gasol, fellow Defensive Player of the Year Candidates. Covington morphs into an octopus away from the action, with two swirling limbs feeling more like eight tentacles, always seemingly in the correct position to make offenses uncomfortable."
https://twitter.com/thedailywolf/status/1070865393567309825
"Chatted w/ Thibs after the game last night about defensive ratings, analytics, and trying to find the best way to judge defense (individually and as a team) One fun comment: He knew Covington was real good but didn't know he was THIS GOOD. Thibs said RoCo should be in DPOY convo!"
https://twitter.com/SixersAdam/status/1070714047228727296
"Robert Covington leads all SGs + SFs in Defensive Real Plus-Minus, at 4.42.
The gap between Covington and second place (Paul George, 2.30) is equal to the gap between second place and 52nd place (Treveon Graham, 0.18)."
https://fansided.com/2018/12/05/robert-covington-unique-defensive-player-year-candidate/
"He leads the NBA steals at 2.3 per game -- it's up to 2.8 since joining the Minnesota Timberwolves 10 games ago -- and is 16th in blocks at 1.5. The only other players who sit among the top 20 in both categories are Anthony Davis and Marc Gasol, fellow Defensive Player of the Year Candidates. Covington morphs into an octopus away from the action, with two swirling limbs feeling more like eight tentacles, always seemingly in the correct position to make offenses uncomfortable."
https://twitter.com/thedailywolf/status/1070865393567309825
"Chatted w/ Thibs after the game last night about defensive ratings, analytics, and trying to find the best way to judge defense (individually and as a team) One fun comment: He knew Covington was real good but didn't know he was THIS GOOD. Thibs said RoCo should be in DPOY convo!"
https://twitter.com/SixersAdam/status/1070714047228727296
"Robert Covington leads all SGs + SFs in Defensive Real Plus-Minus, at 4.42.
The gap between Covington and second place (Paul George, 2.30) is equal to the gap between second place and 52nd place (Treveon Graham, 0.18)."
- Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
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Re: ROCO and DPOY
crazy-canuck wrote:Its starting to pick up steam.
https://fansided.com/2018/12/05/robert-covington-unique-defensive-player-year-candidate/
"He leads the NBA steals at 2.3 per game -- it's up to 2.8 since joining the Minnesota Timberwolves 10 games ago -- and is 16th in blocks at 1.5. The only other players who sit among the top 20 in both categories are Anthony Davis and Marc Gasol, fellow Defensive Player of the Year Candidates. Covington morphs into an octopus away from the action, with two swirling limbs feeling more like eight tentacles, always seemingly in the correct position to make offenses uncomfortable."
https://twitter.com/thedailywolf/status/1070865393567309825
"Chatted w/ Thibs after the game last night about defensive ratings, analytics, and trying to find the best way to judge defense (individually and as a team) One fun comment: He knew Covington was real good but didn't know he was THIS GOOD. Thibs said RoCo should be in DPOY convo!"
https://twitter.com/SixersAdam/status/1070714047228727296
"Robert Covington leads all SGs + SFs in Defensive Real Plus-Minus, at 4.42.
The gap between Covington and second place (Paul George, 2.30) is equal to the gap between second place and 52nd place (Treveon Graham, 0.18)."
He's been a game changer, there is no doubt. What's interesting is that his on ball defense is not always great. He can get blown by. I actually think Okogie has a higher ceiling as a pure one on one defender. But as a team defender and the way he ties people up, his defensive rebounding, getting steals, etc. is just amazing.
Re: ROCO and DPOY
Q12543 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:Its starting to pick up steam.
https://fansided.com/2018/12/05/robert-covington-unique-defensive-player-year-candidate/
"He leads the NBA steals at 2.3 per game -- it's up to 2.8 since joining the Minnesota Timberwolves 10 games ago -- and is 16th in blocks at 1.5. The only other players who sit among the top 20 in both categories are Anthony Davis and Marc Gasol, fellow Defensive Player of the Year Candidates. Covington morphs into an octopus away from the action, with two swirling limbs feeling more like eight tentacles, always seemingly in the correct position to make offenses uncomfortable."
https://twitter.com/thedailywolf/status/1070865393567309825
"Chatted w/ Thibs after the game last night about defensive ratings, analytics, and trying to find the best way to judge defense (individually and as a team) One fun comment: He knew Covington was real good but didn't know he was THIS GOOD. Thibs said RoCo should be in DPOY convo!"
https://twitter.com/SixersAdam/status/1070714047228727296
"Robert Covington leads all SGs + SFs in Defensive Real Plus-Minus, at 4.42.
The gap between Covington and second place (Paul George, 2.30) is equal to the gap between second place and 52nd place (Treveon Graham, 0.18)."
He's been a game changer, there is no doubt. What's interesting is that his on ball defense is not always great. He can get blown by. I actually think Okogie has a higher ceiling as a pure one on one defender. But as a team defender and the way he ties people up, his defensive rebounding, getting steals, etc. is just amazing.
What I heard about Covington before he got here was his team D. Obviously he is still a well above average man defender but...imo I think he is better when he doesn't just have to focus on one player. That takes away from his strengths. I'd rather even put Wiggins on a top offensive option and let Covington help. If Teague keeps locking on and giving effort on D that's gonna help a lot. He has the overall physicality to D up a lot of PGs. The ones he can't let a wing guy have at him. Teague can guard at least above average. It's just whether or not he does it. Obviously if you have a coupletop wing players Covington has to play one of them. That's fine. Also players get blown past sometimes. Butler got blown by also. Nobody can lock down guys and sometimes they are forcing a player to help that never materializes and they look bad.
If Roco keeps this up he is definitely gonna be on the running for DPOY so this is a good thread. That play where he took a dunk away from Capela is gonna be a flash play that gets him on the radar.
- BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
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Re: ROCO and DPOY
I'd like to see Rob at the top of a 3-2 zone with good Wiggy and Josh on the sides. Why can't Thibs try that?
Re: ROCO and DPOY
BizarroJerry wrote:I'd like to see Rob at the top of a 3-2 zone with good Wiggy and Josh on the sides. Why can't Thibs try that?
Court is bigger, and big men can't camp in the lane like in college. Give up way to many easy 3 pt looks.
- BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
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Re: ROCO and DPOY
kekgeek1 wrote:BizarroJerry wrote:I'd like to see Rob at the top of a 3-2 zone with good Wiggy and Josh on the sides. Why can't Thibs try that?
Court is bigger, and big men can't camp in the lane like in college. Give up way to many easy 3 pt looks.
I could see it being effective in small doses with the right personnel on the floor. More of a disruption, trapping D.
Re: ROCO and DPOY
BizarroJerry wrote:kekgeek1 wrote:BizarroJerry wrote:I'd like to see Rob at the top of a 3-2 zone with good Wiggy and Josh on the sides. Why can't Thibs try that?
Court is bigger, and big men can't camp in the lane like in college. Give up way to many easy 3 pt looks.
I could see it being effective in small doses with the right personnel on the floor. More of a disruption, trapping D.
If that's the case you want Covington as one of the guys helping not at the point of attack. The Wolves have been playing well so far doing what they are doing which actually has included some trapping on the perimeter.
- BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
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Re: ROCO and DPOY
monsterpile wrote:BizarroJerry wrote:kekgeek1 wrote:BizarroJerry wrote:I'd like to see Rob at the top of a 3-2 zone with good Wiggy and Josh on the sides. Why can't Thibs try that?
Court is bigger, and big men can't camp in the lane like in college. Give up way to many easy 3 pt looks.
I could see it being effective in small doses with the right personnel on the floor. More of a disruption, trapping D.
If that's the case you want Covington as one of the guys helping not at the point of attack. The Wolves have been playing well so far doing what they are doing which actually has included some trapping on the perimeter.
I'm not complaining about our D. From an entertainment perspective, it would fun to see more 3/4 or half court traps against sub par guards and forcing bad passes.
- Camden [enjin:6601484]
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Re: ROCO and DPOY
Zone defense isn't meant for the NBA because it's easily beatable with read and react passes and you evidently give up a wide open three-point shot. Leave that for the college kids who either aren't smart enough to beat the zone or aren't good enough to consistently knock down shots.