I realize Washington is not a good team, they just dont play any defense once the game is out of hand and the players are just getting theirs - BUT...we were without our Superstar and playing away.
What a fun game to watch - I think Culver's issues are all in his head, the game is so fast and the style of play is so new to him I think he is overwhelmed. It appeared that once the 4th qtr rolled around they started running the offense through him to get him going, and it worked to some extent. I am not so worried about him.
Okogie doesnt get enough credit - that guy needs to be starting soon, I know everyone is jumping up and down about not changing things, but he is so much better than Graham.
Wiggins is having his unusual performance again - just when you start thinking, "wow, this clown is starting to be a slight tick above avg in normal performance" he stops thinking and starts dropping long twos.
Gorgie filled in amazingly - I think he gets the game ball after that performance - you can see he has a bit of an edge after not playing much at all this year.
Not a big fan of Bell, there has got to be someone better than him we can have out there, he doesnt play smart at all and he is not showing anything special in any aspect of his performance - considering he had issues in GS I am really curious what Rosa sees in him. I would much rather see Ried, someone who has real potential, out there getting playing time.
Washington stomping without Towns game report
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apollotsg [enjin:6592798]
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Re: Washington stomping without Towns game report
Great game yes.
A couple of notes. You don't always start your 5 best players. While Okogie (and Layman for that matter) represent some potential areas of improvement over Graham, Graham is currently the best fit with the starting 5.
He's a very solid defender, and very good at creating rebounds by always boxing out (he's also significantly bigger than Okogie). Most importantly, he doesn't require the ball at all, and we have 3-4 players in the starting lineup that can be ball dominant. Graham is a good fit with the starting 5.
Okogie, Graham, and Napier on the court at the same time is a bit of a disaster. We've seen that!!
This was probably my favorite game feom Jeff Teague since he's been with us. His mistakes were all from pushing too hard. Those mistakes are acceptable. I thought it was interesting that in his post game he talked about the requirement of getting the ball to Towns so much, that last night was "stressful" because it required him distributing everywhere AND creating. That stress created a very dynamic performance. He was everywhere on both ends of the court.
Gorgui, Teague, Okogie (always), Wiggins, and Vonleh were all VERY active with their hands last night with great effectiveness.
Bell is 24. He has promise, but he's not required. Vonleh is SO solid defensively holding the paint, and he's shooting 70 percent because he plays within the game and mostly takes dunks.
It was fun last night. What's most fun is that we are beating the teams we should beat. If we get 38 wins, this is a good season. If we get 40, this is a damn good season and we could pull an FA!
A couple of notes. You don't always start your 5 best players. While Okogie (and Layman for that matter) represent some potential areas of improvement over Graham, Graham is currently the best fit with the starting 5.
He's a very solid defender, and very good at creating rebounds by always boxing out (he's also significantly bigger than Okogie). Most importantly, he doesn't require the ball at all, and we have 3-4 players in the starting lineup that can be ball dominant. Graham is a good fit with the starting 5.
Okogie, Graham, and Napier on the court at the same time is a bit of a disaster. We've seen that!!
This was probably my favorite game feom Jeff Teague since he's been with us. His mistakes were all from pushing too hard. Those mistakes are acceptable. I thought it was interesting that in his post game he talked about the requirement of getting the ball to Towns so much, that last night was "stressful" because it required him distributing everywhere AND creating. That stress created a very dynamic performance. He was everywhere on both ends of the court.
Gorgui, Teague, Okogie (always), Wiggins, and Vonleh were all VERY active with their hands last night with great effectiveness.
Bell is 24. He has promise, but he's not required. Vonleh is SO solid defensively holding the paint, and he's shooting 70 percent because he plays within the game and mostly takes dunks.
It was fun last night. What's most fun is that we are beating the teams we should beat. If we get 38 wins, this is a good season. If we get 40, this is a damn good season and we could pull an FA!
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Re: Washington stomping without Towns game report
Bell...does a lot of stuff that makes you understand why he didn't get minutes in GS. It's also worth noting he didn't get to play as many games in preseason and also likely wasn't practicing either. I'm this game he had a stretch early in the 2nd quarter that is what he can bring. Vonleh has been absolutely terrifically solid.
To crush a team like this without Towns is honestly a bit impressive. The difference in this game is the Wolves have solid guys like Graham Vonleh Layman etc and Wizards started a guy like Bonga that is hoping to become one of those guys. Beal is a good player and so beating a team with him missing Towns.
To crush a team like this without Towns is honestly a bit impressive. The difference in this game is the Wolves have solid guys like Graham Vonleh Layman etc and Wizards started a guy like Bonga that is hoping to become one of those guys. Beal is a good player and so beating a team with him missing Towns.
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Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
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Re: Washington stomping without Towns game report
apollotsg wrote:I realize Washington is not a good team, they just dont play any defense once the game is out of hand and the players are just getting theirs - BUT...we were without our Superstar and playing away.
What a fun game to watch - I think Culver's issues are all in his head, the game is so fast and the style of play is so new to him I think he is overwhelmed. It appeared that once the 4th qtr rolled around they started running the offense through him to get him going, and it worked to some extent. I am not so worried about him.
Okogie doesnt get enough credit - that guy needs to be starting soon, I know everyone is jumping up and down about not changing things, but he is so much better than Graham.
Wiggins is having his unusual performance again - just when you start thinking, "wow, this clown is starting to be a slight tick above avg in normal performance" he stops thinking and starts dropping long twos.
Gorgie filled in amazingly - I think he gets the game ball after that performance - you can see he has a bit of an edge after not playing much at all this year.
Not a big fan of Bell, there has got to be someone better than him we can have out there, he doesnt play smart at all and he is not showing anything special in any aspect of his performance - considering he had issues in GS I am really curious what Rosa sees in him. I would much rather see Ried, someone who has real potential, out there getting playing time.
I think the Wolves are playing the long game with Okogie. Graham pretty much is what he is. You know you can stick him in the starting lineup and he'll stay in his lane and do the dirty work. Okogie would have to play a similar role if he was starting too since everything is built around KAT, Teague, and Wiggins.
Coming off the bench, Okogie is able to take a bit more of a leadership role and spends more time on the ball than he would as a starter. He is able to spread his wings as a 6th man.
Re: Washington stomping without Towns game report
Just finished watching the game recording. It was a nice win. Yes, the Wizards are a bad team, but the Wolves throttled them and did it without their best and only allstar player, KAT.
Gorgui was terrific and offered a reminder of how solid and effective he can be.
Covington looks like he's getting his sea legs back as he was hitting threes and even driving the lane effectively, which is not really his game.
Okogie didn't have great stats, but he was terrific again on both sides of the ball as he continues to play smart and under control on the offensive end while playing his usual tenacious smothering defense.
Layman and Vonleh provided solid minutes as they continued to play within themselves and contribute on both sides of the ball. Napier and Graham didn't contribute a lot, but looked OK.
It was nice to see Culver have a breakout game as a scorer with his 20 points, including 4 made three-pointers. He turned the ball over a lot and still looks like he has a long way to go. But he looked like he knew what he was doing. The most important thing I noticed was that he appeared to be light on his feet with a lot of bounce - lending credence to the claim that he had a 45 inch vertical in his workout with the Lakers. He plays under control and seemed more shifty with the ball than I expected.
While all the aforementioned Wolves players played well and contributed substantially to the Wolves 22-point win, my game ball goes to Jeff Teague. I thought he played a tremendous floor game - passing, scoring, setting up the offense and playing decent defense. He was aggressive last night and that's when he's at his best. He's actually played well so far this season, but I thought last night was his best.
Gorgui was terrific and offered a reminder of how solid and effective he can be.
Covington looks like he's getting his sea legs back as he was hitting threes and even driving the lane effectively, which is not really his game.
Okogie didn't have great stats, but he was terrific again on both sides of the ball as he continues to play smart and under control on the offensive end while playing his usual tenacious smothering defense.
Layman and Vonleh provided solid minutes as they continued to play within themselves and contribute on both sides of the ball. Napier and Graham didn't contribute a lot, but looked OK.
It was nice to see Culver have a breakout game as a scorer with his 20 points, including 4 made three-pointers. He turned the ball over a lot and still looks like he has a long way to go. But he looked like he knew what he was doing. The most important thing I noticed was that he appeared to be light on his feet with a lot of bounce - lending credence to the claim that he had a 45 inch vertical in his workout with the Lakers. He plays under control and seemed more shifty with the ball than I expected.
While all the aforementioned Wolves players played well and contributed substantially to the Wolves 22-point win, my game ball goes to Jeff Teague. I thought he played a tremendous floor game - passing, scoring, setting up the offense and playing decent defense. He was aggressive last night and that's when he's at his best. He's actually played well so far this season, but I thought last night was his best.
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Wolvesfan21
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Re: Washington stomping without Towns game report
Since Washington is essentially in full tank mode maybe Beal will accept a trade to us.
Ship 4 1st round picks and Wiggins plus his "potential" to Washington for Beal.
Wiggins gets a fresh start, we get a 26 year old All Star and highly efficient scorer to pair with KAT.
Ship 4 1st round picks and Wiggins plus his "potential" to Washington for Beal.
Wiggins gets a fresh start, we get a 26 year old All Star and highly efficient scorer to pair with KAT.
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Coolbreeze44
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Re: Washington stomping without Towns game report
WolvesFan21 wrote:Since Washington is essentially in full tank mode maybe Beal will accept a trade to us.
Ship 4 1st round picks and Wiggins plus his "potential" to Washington for Beal.
Wiggins gets a fresh start, we get a 26 year old All Star and highly efficient scorer to pair with KAT.
4 first round picks? David Kahn, is this you?
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Camden [enjin:6601484]
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Re: Washington stomping without Towns game report
WolvesFan21 wrote:Since Washington is essentially in full tank mode maybe Beal will accept a trade to us.
Ship 4 1st round picks and Wiggins plus his "potential" to Washington for Beal.
Wiggins gets a fresh start, we get a 26 year old All Star and highly efficient scorer to pair with KAT.
I'm all for pairing Towns with another young All-Star -- as I think it's pivotal in keeping Towns past the 2021 season -- but four first round picks for a guy that's never made an All-NBA team is a tad much, no? I think I'd need a better player than Beal to offer that much.
Re: Washington stomping without Towns game report
Camden0916 wrote:WolvesFan21 wrote:Since Washington is essentially in full tank mode maybe Beal will accept a trade to us.
Ship 4 1st round picks and Wiggins plus his "potential" to Washington for Beal.
Wiggins gets a fresh start, we get a 26 year old All Star and highly efficient scorer to pair with KAT.
I'm all for pairing Towns with another young All-Star -- as I think it's pivotal in keeping Towns past the 2021 season -- but four first round picks for a guy that's never made an All-NBA team is a tad much, no? I think I'd need a better player than Beal to offer that much.
Everything I've heard is that if the Wizards were actually willing to trade Beal the offers would roll in. I think they would get a better offer than Wiggins and some...outside of the lottery picks. Beal has a nice skill set to pair with other stars. He can both handle the ball and shoot plus after having problems staying healthy early in his career he has played back to back season of 82 games and played 77 the previous year. I think he doesn't suck on defense anymore either.
Re: Washington stomping without Towns game report
I think Beal would be a great for the Wolves with KAT - both skill set and age. Beal is a bona fide star who is elite shooting threes and scoring On penetration off the dribble. But 4 future 1st-round picks seems too steep a price for me.