Dieng trade?
- Hicks123 [enjin:6700838]
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Dieng trade?
For James Johnson? They better hope he declines his player option. If he does, we will certainly have money available with all the expiring contracts. I have little faith in doing something positive, but there is always a chance!
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Hicks123 wrote:For James Johnson? They better hope he declines his player option. If he does, we will certainly have money available with all the expiring contracts. I have little faith in doing something positive, but there is always a chance!
If Rosas can dump Dieng for expiring salary he will immediately have become the best GM in Wolves history.
- AbeVigodaLive
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James Johnson is about to be 33.
Next year, he'd make more money than he did his first 7 years in the league combined.
He's barely played this season. I think there's a very very good chance he's not walking away from a guaranteed $16M.
Next year, he'd make more money than he did his first 7 years in the league combined.
He's barely played this season. I think there's a very very good chance he's not walking away from a guaranteed $16M.
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Except that Dieng actually played well when given minutes.
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Yea this trade doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Maybe they have faith in Big Naz being able to back up KAT. And also acquiring Juan Hernangomez who can play 5. James Johnson was a very good role player a couple of years ago, and if healthy can contribute to a high level. Add to that he's a MMA fighter so if KAT gets too sulky Johnson can sort him out with a round house kick.
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James Johnson played on Rosas G league team.
Also 1.5 million less then gorgui. Also gorgui hasn't been good off the bench. More minutes for Naz and Johnson fits at the 4 in this system
Also 1.5 million less then gorgui. Also gorgui hasn't been good off the bench. More minutes for Naz and Johnson fits at the 4 in this system
- BloopOracle
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James Johnson lit into KAT in an interview over the Butler saga just last month.....
- WildWolf2813
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KiwiMatt wrote:Yea this trade doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Maybe they have faith in Big Naz being able to back up KAT. And also acquiring Juan Hernangomez who can play 5. James Johnson was a very good role player a couple of years ago, and if healthy can contribute to a high level. Add to that he's a MMA fighter so if KAT gets too sulky Johnson can sort him out with a round house kick.
Or maybe they did right by Dieng and got him outta here on a team with someone he knows in Jones and a shot at the playoffs.
Had he stayed he woulda been the 4th player in team history to make it to 7 full years with this franchise.
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Gorgui Dieng was never a great player. Heck, we never even had any illusions that he'd ever be a great player. He was here for a lot of losing. He contributed to that losing.
He wasn't good enough. Simple as that.
But that doesn't make him a bad player. And as we've heard over the years, he definitely wasn't a bad guy. He helped others. And he didn't seem to need to let everybody know he was helping others. He didn't hide from bad stuff. He didn't pass the buck. He was a pro.
G. Dieng had a positive VORP every single season for 7 years, despite playing for mostly crappy teams. He looked slow. He looked awkward. He looked "meh." And apparently, officials thought so too.
I've just now conducted an official study on first-step travels in the NBA since October 2013. The slow-footed, gangly Gorgui Dieng has been called for 32,109 of them. By comparison, LeBron James has been called for them twice. And James Harden has yet to be called for a travel. Ever.
Despite that, and despite that perpetual look of "Awww, c'mon, you're kidding me. You can't call that!" on his face after those travels... and despite him not being quite strong enough to hold up against the biggest guys... or fast enough vs. the fastest guys... or versatile enough to shed the backup center tag... I think he was a decent player. Relatively speaking.
Again... he's always had a positive VORP. And when he got his chances to play more, he often responded. He even rounded out his game with three point shooting in year #7.
He was a pro. Nothing more. Definitely nothing less. For a franchise like the Wolves who've entertained many rebuilds and failed restarts... that's about all we can ask for.
G. Dieng was a memorable Timberwolves player. He competed. Sometimes, that's good enough.
He wasn't good enough. Simple as that.
But that doesn't make him a bad player. And as we've heard over the years, he definitely wasn't a bad guy. He helped others. And he didn't seem to need to let everybody know he was helping others. He didn't hide from bad stuff. He didn't pass the buck. He was a pro.
G. Dieng had a positive VORP every single season for 7 years, despite playing for mostly crappy teams. He looked slow. He looked awkward. He looked "meh." And apparently, officials thought so too.
I've just now conducted an official study on first-step travels in the NBA since October 2013. The slow-footed, gangly Gorgui Dieng has been called for 32,109 of them. By comparison, LeBron James has been called for them twice. And James Harden has yet to be called for a travel. Ever.
Despite that, and despite that perpetual look of "Awww, c'mon, you're kidding me. You can't call that!" on his face after those travels... and despite him not being quite strong enough to hold up against the biggest guys... or fast enough vs. the fastest guys... or versatile enough to shed the backup center tag... I think he was a decent player. Relatively speaking.
Again... he's always had a positive VORP. And when he got his chances to play more, he often responded. He even rounded out his game with three point shooting in year #7.
He was a pro. Nothing more. Definitely nothing less. For a franchise like the Wolves who've entertained many rebuilds and failed restarts... that's about all we can ask for.
G. Dieng was a memorable Timberwolves player. He competed. Sometimes, that's good enough.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:Gorgui Dieng was never a great player. Heck, we never even had any illusions that he'd ever be a great player. He was here for a lot of losing. He contributed to that losing.
He wasn't good enough. Simple as that.
But that doesn't make him a bad player. And as we've heard over the years, he definitely wasn't a bad guy. He helped others. And he didn't seem to need to let everybody know he was helping others. He didn't hide from bad stuff. He didn't pass the buck. He was a pro.
G. Dieng had a positive VORP every single season for 7 years, despite playing for mostly crappy teams. He looked slow. He looked awkward. He looked "meh." And apparently, officials thought so too.
I've just now conducted an official study on first-step travels in the NBA since October 2013. The slow-footed, gangly Gorgui Dieng has been called for 32,109 of them. By comparison, LeBron James has been called for them twice. And James Harden has yet to be called for a travel. Ever.
Despite that, and despite that perpetual look of "Awww, c'mon, you're kidding me. You can't call that!" on his face after those travels... and despite him not being quite strong enough to hold up against the biggest guys... or fast enough vs. the fastest guys... or versatile enough to shed the backup center tag... I think he was a decent player. Relatively speaking.
Again... he's always had a positive VORP. And when he got his chances to play more, he often responded. He even rounded out his game with three point shooting in year #7.
He was a pro. Nothing more. Definitely nothing less. For a franchise like the Wolves who've entertained many rebuilds and failed restarts... that's about all we can ask for.
G. Dieng was a memorable Timberwolves player. He competed. Sometimes, that's good enough.
Well done.