Revisiting The 2013 Minnesota And Utah Draft Night Trade

[bleedspeed]

http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/revisiting-2013-minnesota-and-utah-draft-night-trade

Interesting looking back. I am not sure who Flip wanted instead of Bazz out of the guys picked ahead of him. CJ McCollum, MCW, Steven Adams, and Kelly Olynyk where picked in between. Out of that group I would take any of them over Shabazz. (taking off homer glasses for a bit) The problem is we missed on Giannis Antetokounmpo and to a lesser extent Dennis Schroeder.

At 21 Gobert and Plumee would have been better picks. (Plumlee is really a toss up)

As for the trade. I think it was a good move but we just picked the wrong guys.

Draft Link
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2013/index

[AbeVigodaLive]

Yeah, if it's just Burke vs. Muhammad/Dieng.

Win-win for the Wolves.

I liked McCollum leading into the draft the most. I didn't see him struggling as much out of the gate (injuries?)... nor did I see him reaching 20 ppg. I also think Adams is a fairly solid player.

[Monster]

The reality is its still to early to really say. Heck Burke has actually been able to hit some shots and Dieng has grown a lot at a defensive player. Teams have called about Bazz so they probably could get something out of him right now. That's nifty considering other Wolves picks drafted much much higher you almost wondered if the Wolves would have to pay to get rid of them and with Wes Kahn did. Maybe Flip didn't slam dunk this trade but getting 2 young worthwhile rotation players with plenty of trade value...? That sounds pretty good to me. I still believe Bazz will eventually break through and to a certain extent this season if he stays healthy.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I think the trade itself was fine getting 2 rotation players for one, but he missed on both picks in terms of maximizing value for them. McCollum is better than Bazz and Dieng individually, but he's not worth more than both. The problem was he drafted guys with the expectation they be more ready made to help that team make the playoffs when you really should always draft who you think will be best in 5 years which is how we got Lavine. Taking Giannis and Gobert as projects was the right move given Adelman wasn't gonna play Bazz much regardless and Gobert would have been fine as a backup to Pek. So we got decent value, just not the best we could have.

Also, the article comparing them to Burke is dumb. We drafted Burke to trade him. I seriously doubt he was the guy we would have picked if we had the intention of keeping the pick.

[Monster]

I think the trade itself was fine getting 2 rotation players for one, but he missed on both picks in terms of maximizing value for them. McCollum is better than Bazz and Dieng individually, but he's not worth more than both. The problem was he drafted guys with the expectation they be more ready made to help that team make the playoffs when you really should always draft who you think will be best in 5 years which is how we got Lavine. Taking Giannis and Gobert as projects was the right move given Adelman wasn't gonna play Bazz much regardless and Gobert would have been fine as a backup to Pek. So we got decent value, just not the best we could have.

That's a good point and actually that makes the picks make more sense at the time. Both guys had aspects of their games that should have theoretically for very well into Adelman's system of play. I think Flip took a bit of a swing for the fences with Bazz also. Let's remind ourselves of the other side of the coin. There are a number of other players we could have selected in that draft that haven't been very productive up to this point.

[AbeVigodaLive]

I think the trade itself was fine getting 2 rotation players for one, but he missed on both picks in terms of maximizing value for them. McCollum is better than Bazz and Dieng individually, but he's not worth more than both. The problem was he drafted guys with the expectation they be more ready made to help that team make the playoffs when you really should always draft who you think will be best in 5 years which is how we got Lavine. Taking Giannis and Gobert as projects was the right move given Adelman wasn't gonna play Bazz much regardless and Gobert would have been fine as a backup to Pek. So we got decent value, just not the best we could have.

Also, the article comparing them to Burke is dumb. We drafted Burke to trade him. I seriously doubt he was the guy we would have picked if we had the intention of keeping the pick.

Not entirely sure about that one this season...

I think I'd rather have one bona fide starter averaging 21 / 4 / 4 than two guys with decent output (but largely replaceable) off the bench.

[Porckchop]

I prefer to dwell on the drafting of Rubio and Johnny Flynn over Steph Curry.
Of course had we drafted Curry this team would still be made up of him and Love , and Towns would probably be a 76er.

[Monster]

I prefer to dwell on the drafting of Rubio and Johnny Flynn over Steph Curry.
Of course had we drafted Curry this team would still be made up of him and Love , and Towns would probably be a 76er.

You "prefer" to dwell on that? :)

[Porckchop]

I prefer to dwell on the drafting of Rubio and Johnny Flynn over Steph Curry.
Of course had we drafted Curry this team would still be made up of him and Love , and Towns would probably be a 76er.

You "prefer" to dwell on that? :)

Glutton for punishment!

[TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]]

I used to dwell on the horrible selections of Wes Johnson and Flynn who I thought were terrible selections the moment Kahn made them. But we would never have gotten KAT and Wiggins without them, so I have moved on.