Houston not picking up Parson's option

[Papalrep]

So he will be a restricted free agent, they will pay him 10M/yr or whatever and extend him. The Rockets want either KLove or Carmelo to complete a big three. They have all their draft picks. So what do they have that we would want, besides a re-signed Parson's? We won't be getting either of their two big stars. I ask because they apparently will be coming after Love.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Nothing. They're not getting Love via trade.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I wouldn't even want Parsons at 10+ million a year. He's at best a third best player on a playoff team and should be the 4th on a contender. With no high draft picks, they could really only offer players which wouldn't be worth it. I think he is overrated and his defense has taken a step back already since the start of his career. Classic case of a guy who plays with stars getting overrated because the stars make him look better than he is.

[Hicks123 [enjin:6700838]]

I wouldn't even want Parsons at 10+ million a year. He's at best a third best player on a playoff team and should be the 4th on a contender. With no high draft picks, they could really only offer players which wouldn't be worth it. I think he is overrated and his defense has taken a step back already since the start of his career. Classic case of a guy who plays with stars getting overrated because the stars make him look better than he is.

Prove this out to me.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Averaged 9.5 PPG, 4.8 RPG, 2.1 APG pre-Harden and Dwight.
Averaged 15.5 PPG, 5.3 RPG, 3.5 APG with Harden, pre-Dwight.
Averaged 16.6 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 4 APG with both.
Shooting percentages were also considerably better in years 2 and 3 compared to 1. Still only had a 15 PER with two stars playing next to him as well.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

PER's a dumb "stat" that really has no justification. Klay Thompson and Lance Stephenson are below average NBA players according to that metric. Please.

And while I don't agree or disagree with your point about Parsons, using his rookie season's stats to make your point is comical.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

The way everyone on this board talks, rookies make big impacts right away and don't need time to adjust. That's why players can be declared busts after 1 year right? Thompson is also overrated. 10+ million a year for inefficient shooters who play good but not great D and aren't shot creators. That makes sense. Unfortunately, Parsons has only played 1 year without at least 1 star next to him so we can't definitively say one way or the other if he is worth 10+ million a year so I guess we'll just have to wait and see. My opinion is that he isn't because I think he benefits from the stars he plays with.

[Hicks123 [enjin:6700838]]

The way everyone on this board talks, rookies make big impacts right away and don't need time to adjust. That's why players can be declared busts after 1 year right? Thompson is also overrated. 10+ million a year for inefficient shooters who play good but not great D and aren't shot creators. That makes sense. Unfortunately, Parsons has only played 1 year without at least 1 star next to him so we can't definitively say one way or the other if he is worth 10+ million a year so I guess we'll just have to wait and see. My opinion is that he isn't because I think he benefits from the stars he plays with.

I try to stay away from personal attacks, but this is probably the dumbest post I have ever seen. EVERY player that is any good saw a progression from his rookie year to 3-4 years down the road. Please keep in mind that Parsons was a 2nd round pick, and should not have even seen minutes his rookie year, as is the trend with 2nd round players. Instead, he averaged nearly 10 ppg, on 45% shooting. Also averaged 5 rpg, 2 apg, 1.2 spg.

And I also love when guys are knocked for simply doing what they are supposed to do on a team...in Parsons case would be to knock down shots and play solid D. Please remember that despite the players he plays with, and the open looks he gets, HE STILL HAD TO MAKE THEM(something every Wolves player lacks)! And he shot 47% overall and 37% from 3.....your right, what a bum. I would ask that you watch the Spurs and dare to tell someone in SA that Kawhi Leonard has dimished value because he plays with Parker and Duncan. Guys can't help the situations they are in, all they can do is contrinute in a positive way....which both Parsons and Leonard do each and every game.

Now, that being said, you can certainly argue their worth from a monetary perspective. Parsons is not a star, but rather an extremely valueable spoke to the wheel. $10M, which I agree he will get, seems a bit high, but he is young, can shoot the lights out, is ideal size for the position, and plays solid defense. Overpaid a bit, maybe, but you know you will get your value from a guy like this. Personally, I really like him, and the deal I explore is with Houston. Cam and I disagree about the value here, which is fine, but I don't think either he or I think Parsons has diminished talents because of the guys he plays with. Seems ridiculous to me.

[Monster]

Parsons is a prototypical SF that's young I'm not sure how he isn't worth at least 9 million in the NBA market right now. Starting Level wings aren't that common and that's why I think Lance gets paid as well. Thomas inefficient? OK it will be interesting to see what he does on a team that doesn't want him to shoot a ton but I always have liked him from his first year of SL on. Not sure what he is worth but hey he has done a heck of a lot more than Jeremy Lin did before he got that ridiculous contract so. Yeah dumb comparison but seriously Thomas has played well for 3 years often beating out guys above him on the food chain.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I'm not saying Parsons is a bum. I'm saying he's not worth 10 million a year on a team where he would have to be a go-to player instead of supporting piece because there isn't anyone else to go to. The NBA is a lot harder when you are the top offensive option versus even the third best. It's the difference between getting the other team's shut down perimeter defender versus a decent to bad defender. The same goes for Thompson and Kawaii. On the Wolves they would struggle compared to the cushy gigs they have now. They're not bad players, but they are still supporting pieces at this point in their careers. 10 million is a lot to pay a guy on a rebuilding team when you have no idea if he is going to sink or swim with the added responsibility.