Wigginton - We’ve Got Our Guy

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I know nothing about this guy other than the fact he shot around 40% on over 5 attempts from behind the college arc in two seasons at Iowa State. I just watched some highlights videos. He appears to be an excellent ballhandler with the ability to change speed and direction effectively. Those skills along with terrific body control seem to allow him to get to the rim where he appears to have the ability to finish in traffic. Who knows if he'll even make the final roster. But I'm intrigued.

So don't let his name and the fact that he's from Canada scare you. :).
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6'2" athletic combo but more than likely PG that has penetration ability, proven stroke at the college level. What I like most is that his shot has range 6-8 feet off the 3pt line. He's had success in under 18 and under 19 tournaments, championship TOR Raptors had him in summer league. Just another reason to have hope that our GM is taking this team in the correct direction. I can't say Wigginton will pan out for sure but I sure do like the talent.
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Everything I've seen (highlights) and read this guy isn't a PG. The guy shoots the hell out of the ball from 3 though. He can handle the ball but doesn't really look like a guy that's blowing past people. That seems a bit mixed based on what I read. Looks more like a vertical athlete than a jet past you type guy. A few reports say he plays tough and actually defends. Several reports say he could develop in the G-league and maybe become more of a PG type. Let's say all he can do is be a competent ball handler that can light it up from 3 and also defends...I'll take like 2 of those guys especially if they are cheap. :)

Edit: He drew fouls at a pretty high rate and rebounded well last year especially for his size.
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monsterpile wrote:Everything I've seen (highlights) and read this guy isn't a PG. The guy shoots the hell out of the ball from 3 though. He can handle the ball but doesn't really look like a guy that's blowing past people. That seems a bit mixed based on what I read. Looks more like a vertical athlete than a jet past you type guy. A few reports say he plays tough and actually defends. Several reports say he could develop in the G-league and maybe become more of a PG type. Let's say all he can do is be a competent ball handler that can light it up from 3 and also defends...I'll take like 2 of those guys especially if they are cheap. :)

Edit: He drew fouls at a pretty high rate and rebounded well last year especially for his size.


He's one of those guys who penetrates effectively based on a combination of excellent ball-handling and very good change of speed and direction. Kyrie Irving, Steph Curry and others are examples of elite NBA players who aren't particularly quick but who get to the rim with the type of skills Wigginton has. He's never been a facilitator type PG, but if you watch enough of his highlight videos you see him make some terrific passes and exhibit nice court vision. In any event, I'm with you in being happen with a good ball-handler who can hit threes. I also like his potential to get the the rim and finish or draw fouls.
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Finally someone to give Wigg a good name!

I'm joking Cool, relax!
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lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:Everything I've seen (highlights) and read this guy isn't a PG. The guy shoots the hell out of the ball from 3 though. He can handle the ball but doesn't really look like a guy that's blowing past people. That seems a bit mixed based on what I read. Looks more like a vertical athlete than a jet past you type guy. A few reports say he plays tough and actually defends. Several reports say he could develop in the G-league and maybe become more of a PG type. Let's say all he can do is be a competent ball handler that can light it up from 3 and also defends...I'll take like 2 of those guys especially if they are cheap. :)

Edit: He drew fouls at a pretty high rate and rebounded well last year especially for his size.


He's one of those guys who penetrates effectively based on a combination of excellent ball-handling and very good change of speed and direction. Kyrie Irving, Steph Curry and others are examples of elite NBA players who aren't particularly quick but who get to the rim with the type of skills Wigginton has. He's never been a facilitator type PG, but if you watch enough of his highlight videos you see him make some terrific passes and exhibit nice court vision. In any event, I'm with you in being happen with a good ball-handler who can hit threes. I also like his potential to get the the rim and finish or draw fouls.


Yeah he throws some nice dimes but that doesn't make him a PG. I'm in on him being a ball handler but not a PG unless he develops a lot. That's not a massive knock because you can say that about a lot of guards. I'm not sure I see the ball handling ability that you do. I'd be interested in looking at some highlights that you have seen it in. The elevation he gets on his jumper is both amazing and I wonder if that makes his jump shot sustainable. I'd be interested if anyone has the numbers of how he finished at the rim. I believe I remember hearing (reading somewhere on the internets) about him being someone intriguing months ago around the draft cycle. Just to be clear I like the signing and I do think there is some legit upside but what I like is that he also may have the skill set to be a complimentary player too. It helps he played a lesser role last year and still shot the 3 well and I believe I read somewhere a lot of them were contested.
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Monster - There really aren't many true PGs in the League anymore. In fact many of the top "PGs" aren't really what I'd call PGs. Lillard and Kyrie Irving are two examples - scorers ostensibly playing the PG position. To be a good modern NBA PG you need to be an excellent ball-handler and penetrator as well as a very good scorer with the ability to see and hit open teammates. Wigginton seems to have all those abilities based on the limited video I've seen of him. Note, however, that whether he has those skills at an NBA level remains to be seen. Obviously, he wasn't that highly touted coming out of college, so it makes sense to be skeptical.

Yet, for the first time, we have a front office that is acquiring multiple young high-upside players who are credible candidates to develop into good players, including Naz Reid, Kelan Martin, Vonleh, Layman, and Bell. I'd also include Nowell as an excellent mid-second round pick with potential. Now add Wigginton to that list as a nice young upside acquisition. And don't forget Okogie and KBD as well as this year's first round pick, Jarrett Culver. There's a good chance none of these guys pan out. But there's also a decent chance that one, two or three of them will. We appear to have coaches with a reputation for developing young talent. As the season progresses, we'll see what we've got.
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Wigginton will be in iowa.

Rosas seems to be targetting young guys to develop in iowa for future depth.

Its a good plan. Develop guys for the bench while hoping to get lucky, finding a possible starter, or developing assets for a trade.
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lipoli390 wrote:Monster - There really aren't many true PGs in the League anymore. In fact many of the top "PGs" aren't really what I'd call PGs. Lillard and Kyrie Irving are two examples - scorers ostensibly playing the PG position. To be a good modern NBA PG you need to be an excellent ball-handler and penetrator as well as a very good scorer with the ability to see and hit open teammates. Wigginton seems to have all those abilities based on the limited video I've seen of him. Note, however, that whether he has those skills at an NBA level remains to be seen. Obviously, he wasn't that highly touted coming out of college, so it makes sense to be skeptical.

Yet, for the first time, we have a front office that is acquiring multiple young high-upside players who are credible candidates to develop into good players, including Naz Reid, Kelan Martin, Vonleh, Layman, and Bell. I'd also include Nowell as an excellent mid-second round pick with potential. Now add Wigginton to that list as a nice young upside acquisition. And don't forget Okogie and KBD as well as this year's first round pick, Jarrett Culver. There's a good chance none of these guys pan out. But there's also a decent chance that one, two or three of them will. We appear to have coaches with a reputation for developing young talent. As the season progresses, we'll see what we've got.


I agree with your post and completely agree there aren't many true PGs which is why I said that's not a total knock on a guy for not being that. That's why a guy like McLaughlin is intriguing because he is more of a true PG and can in theory do other things and looks like he has the skillet to play off people too. I was just making the point that Wigginton isn't a guy with PG skills at this point. Undersized guards that aren't good at running a team and or getting guys open looks have to be quite good at something else to be worthwhile. You believe more in his ball handling than me which is cool. I think his shooting and possible defense (especially defending off the bench) could make him valuable. Not every guy has to have some incredible upside to be valueable. If you can find the next JJ Barea or whatever those kinds of players matter too. That's sort of been a problem historically for this organization is finding some moderate hidden gem (or at least polished rocks lol) depth guys. I also feel optimistic about the possibility of this actually happening now.
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Wigginton>Your mom's wig>Wiggins
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