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We have 2 true pg currently on the roster in jeff teague and shabaz napier. Given rosas vision and long term planning, I dont see him going into the season with that pair getting all the pg minutes since this will be a developmental season. We know teague is most likely not going to be here after next season and napier is a career third string pg.

My prediction is that rosas already have his backup and project pg plan on the team and that is Jarret culver. I think culver will play pg minutes this season. Saunders talks about him playing pg in college. Culver dominated the ball last season at texas tech and showed good pick and roll skills.

This may also be the best way to develop culver as it gives him a physical advantage. It develops his playmaking which is solid in college and may be the best way for him to develop into a all star caliber player. Oladipo, wade and lavine started their careers playing pg and I think that helped in their development later on in their careers even when they reverted back to their natural sg position. Heck, If justise winslow can play pg effectively then I dont see how culver can't.

It may not work but I'l rather see us try this rather than playing tyrone wallace at pg or giving all the backup minutes to napier.

This is speculation on my part but I think this is something rosas and saunders consider a valid option as well.
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World, my prediction would be that we draft a point guard in the lottery next year. Culver may help us get through this season, but I don't see him as any kind of long term answer.
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worldK wrote:We have 2 true pg currently on the roster in jeff teague and shabaz napier. Given rosas vision and long term planning, I dont see him going into the season with that pair getting all the pg minutes since this will be a developmental season. We know teague is most likely not going to be here after next season and napier is a career third string pg.

My prediction is that rosas already have his backup and project pg plan on the team and that is Jarret culver. I think culver will play pg minutes this season. Saunders talks about him playing pg in college. Culver dominated the ball last season at texas tech and showed good pick and roll skills.

This may also be the best way to develop culver as it gives him a physical advantage. It develops his playmaking which is solid in college and may be the best way for him to develop into a all star caliber player. Oladipo, wade and lavine started their careers playing pg and I think that helped in their development later on in their careers even when they reverted back to their natural sg position. Heck, If justise winslow can play pg effectively then I dont see how culver can't.

It may not work but I'l rather see us try this rather than playing tyrone wallace at pg or giving all the backup minutes to napier.

This is speculation on my part but I think this is something rosas and saunders consider a valid option as well.


Here is the thing about Culver playing PG...Napier's Strongest advanced stats the last 2 seasons are playing with a PG. He is really more of a scoring guard anyway. According to advanced numbers the difference between him and a guy like Crawford or Rose is that Napier surprisingly doesn't suck at defending people. So you could see Napier playing with Culver Playing more of a PG role somewhat like Crawford and Rose did with Tyus only the defense seemingly won't fall apart at least.

The other option is actually playing McLaughlin some actual minutes. He is the only other true PG on the roster other than Teague. He played with a bunch of PG lead guard/ball handlers last year with the Nets G-league team and was a good 3 point shooter in college so he in theory is a guy that may be able to play off guys too.

PG is the greatest question mark this year no doubt and obviously it's a pretty big question mark going forward as well as we don't have one signed beyond this season.
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Im with you in thinking they will try to develop Culver into the future pg. This season, I think him and wiggs get a lot of spot minutes as the facilitator with Napier playing more off ball when teague is off the court.

Saunders and rosas mentioned a few times about culver as a pg and that wiggs is a SG. For the future, I think they are planning on a culver/wiggs backcourt which provides alot of size and versatility. Now whether that idea looks good in actual play is another question. But, I do see where they could be going with this.
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Playing culver as a pg this season just makes a lot of sense to me. Its a developmental season and we have no long term pg currently on the roster

Culver may not be the long term pg solution for us but playing there would help his development. I cited wade, oladipo and lavine as players who started their careers playing pg. They eventually shifted back to sg but their time at pg certainly helped their development.

There is little to no risks as well. We have a glut of wings in wig, cov, okogie,layman,kbd and nowell that should get minutes. Its better to play culver at pg than playing wallace ir having napier getting all the backup minutes.

Best case, culver excelled at pg and expand his game and value. Worst case, we lose 3-4 more games than we are projected to and we draft a pg in the pg heavy draft next season.
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worldK wrote:Playing culver as a pg this season just makes a lot of sense to me. Its a developmental season and we have no long term pg currently on the roster

Culver may not be the long term pg solution for us but playing there would help his development. I cited wade, oladipo and lavine as players who started their careers playing pg. They eventually shifted back to sg but their time at pg certainly helped their development.

There is little to no risks as well. We have a glut of wings in wig, cov, okogie,layman,kbd and nowell that should get minutes. Its better to play culver at pg than playing wallace ir having napier getting all the backup minutes.

Best case, culver excelled at pg and expand his game and value. Worst case, we lose 3-4 more games than we are projected to and we draft a pg in the pg heavy draft next season.


The downside of playing a guy that's potentially out of position like Culver is the rest of the roster suffers. That said Culver is gonna be miles ahead better than when we were throwing Lavine out there in that 17 win season which...was a nightmare in terms of injuries. I'm not against playing Culver at PG but there are some downsides.
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monsterpile wrote:
worldK wrote:Playing culver as a pg this season just makes a lot of sense to me. Its a developmental season and we have no long term pg currently on the roster

Culver may not be the long term pg solution for us but playing there would help his development. I cited wade, oladipo and lavine as players who started their careers playing pg. They eventually shifted back to sg but their time at pg certainly helped their development.

There is little to no risks as well. We have a glut of wings in wig, cov, okogie,layman,kbd and nowell that should get minutes. Its better to play culver at pg than playing wallace ir having napier getting all the backup minutes.

Best case, culver excelled at pg and expand his game and value. Worst case, we lose 3-4 more games than we are projected to and we draft a pg in the pg heavy draft next season.


The downside of playing a guy that's potentially out of position like Culver is the rest of the roster suffers. That said Culver is gonna be miles ahead better than when we were throwing Lavine out there in that 17 win season which...was a nightmare in terms of injuries. I'm not against playing Culver at PG but there are some downsides.



Lavine was a disaster on both sides of the ball at pg.

Culver at least some experience playing pg at the college level and his defense alone should keep him from being Lavine 2.

Plus our offense will revolve around kat this year, so it should be much easier for culver than it was for lavine.
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monsterpile wrote:
worldK wrote:Playing culver as a pg this season just makes a lot of sense to me. Its a developmental season and we have no long term pg currently on the roster

Culver may not be the long term pg solution for us but playing there would help his development. I cited wade, oladipo and lavine as players who started their careers playing pg. They eventually shifted back to sg but their time at pg certainly helped their development.

There is little to no risks as well. We have a glut of wings in wig, cov, okogie,layman,kbd and nowell that should get minutes. Its better to play culver at pg than playing wallace ir having napier getting all the backup minutes.

Best case, culver excelled at pg and expand his game and value. Worst case, we lose 3-4 more games than we are projected to and we draft a pg in the pg heavy draft next season.


The downside of playing a guy that's potentially out of position like Culver is the rest of the roster suffers. That said Culver is gonna be miles ahead better than when we were throwing Lavine out there in that 17 win season which...was a nightmare in terms of injuries. I'm not against playing Culver at PG but there are some downsides.


As crazy canuck pointed out, the offense will and should revolve around towns. Rosas talks about positionless lineups and culver works as a pg.

Playing pick and roll and defense are culver's strength so he has that going.

Also teague will be the starting pg for the team and im advocating culver to get the backup pg minutes ahead of napier and wallace.

I have no problem with culver being the primary ball handler for the 2nd unit and he could get some run with the starters with us running the offense around towns and wiggins getting spot playmaking duties.
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I'm with those who think Culver should get significant PG minutes this season. We're looking at a developmental season for the Wolves so now is the time to experiment. I don't know if it will pan out long term, but it's definitely worth a try. The only downside is that it might hurt the Wolves W-L record by a few games. But for a lottery-bound team like the Wolves this season, that could just as well be seen as upside. :)
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Is putting Culver at pg putting him in a position to succeed? If that's not his long term position wouldn't that be a huge mistake in his overall development ? We always talk about the organization failing at player development and now you want to play our first round pick out of position for a year and hope for a pg in the draft? Then what? We start that guy at power forward until we find a solution there too?
I say make him earn his starting role at his natural position and if he fails then let him come of the bench for a season.
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