Sixers

[SameOldNudityDrew]

Anybody else as happy as me that the Sixers owners finally seem to have realized that Hinkie's "strategy" for the last few years is a crying shame?

It's also been nice to see Flip's veteran signings praised by a lot of people for being a much smarter route to rebuild in contrast to the Sixers' plan.

[kekgeek]

Anybody else as happy as me that the Sixers owners finally seem to have realized that Hinkie's "strategy" for the last few years is a crying shame?

It's also been nice to see Flip's veteran signings praised by a lot of people for being a much smarter route to rebuild in contrast to the Sixers' plan.

I'm still pro hinkie, I think the plan is smart they have yet to lose a trade and what happens if they get ben Simmons and get the Lakers pick and add another good player. All of a sudden the Sixers have 4 young pieces, and a ton of cap space.

I know I am in the minority here but I think it is a good strategy, nba could be in trouble if this strategy works but I think it is a smart strategy and they have a untapped potential

[SameOldNudityDrew]

I just find it totally unethical and also stupid. The draft is still kind of a crapshoot so it's no guarantee to work, and in the meantime, they are doing their fans and the NBA in general a real disservice. I just think it's a real stain on the game, frankly.

[kekgeek]

I just find it totally unethical and also stupid. The draft is still kind of a crapshoot so it's no guarantee to work, and in the meantime, they are doing their fans and the NBA in general a real disservice. I just think it's a real stain on the game, frankly.

I understand what you are saying, but that same pathetic Sixers had a better record than the wolves last year. Look what the number one pick did for the wolves we have a future, I just think teams should maximize their chance to change their franchise. The league is in trouble if it works

[JasonIsDaMan [enjin:7981157]]

I am going to take the contrarian view.

First of all, no team accomplished anything without high picks. That's why its a story when a high pick is a bust. Most teams are in agreement that he is going to do well. And it's also just as big of a story when a Tom Brady, Richard Sherman or Mike Piazza comes along (or knock on wood, Stefon Diggs).

Second of all, this happened because of "pressure" from other owners because they aren't making enough on half the gate and PHI isn't contributing enough to profit sharing. I don't doubt that, but all these other owners think they're god's gift and would scream bloody murder if someone "intervened" with their teams, or god forbid, their core businesses. Can you imagine 10 owners dragging Taylor into a room and telling him, after 20 years of dullards in player personnel, they need to run his front office hirings by them? And, at risk of speaking ill of the deceased, have the Sixers made one individual move anywhere near as stupid as a first rounder for Payne?

There were mistakes. They didn't supplement the roster with character vets like Kevin Ollie. And they should have went with a sure thing instead of Embiid when there were real concerns that he would be the next Oden. And there are also quibbles with some of the individual picks.

But overall, it had to be done.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

According to this 538.com study, Hinkie is the worst rebuilding GM in the history of the NBA. The problem with this study...David Kahn ranks sixth best of all time, one notch below Michael Jordan.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-76ers-would-be-the-worst-expansion-team-in-modern-nba-history/

[AbeVigodaLive]

Anybody else as happy as me that the Sixers owners finally seem to have realized that Hinkie's "strategy" for the last few years is a crying shame?

It's also been nice to see Flip's veteran signings praised by a lot of people for being a much smarter route to rebuild in contrast to the Sixers' plan.

I'm still pro hinkie, I think the plan is smart they have yet to lose a trade and what happens if they get ben Simmons and get the Lakers pick and add another good player. All of a sudden the Sixers have 4 young pieces, and a ton of cap space.

I know I am in the minority here but I think it is a good strategy, nba could be in trouble if this strategy works but I think it is a smart strategy and they have a untapped potential

I think it's a disservice to the fans... especially season ticket holders... unless they're offering DEEP discounts on those tickets.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I'd say the Noel trade was a failure. He traded a young all-star talent in Holliday for Noel who I just don't see all-star potential out of. Maybe he has to be a defensive anchor like Gobert at C to show it, but so far next to Okafor he's not an all-star. That trade basically came about because of the failed draft choice that was MCW. It's hard to know the domino effect that had. Noel was never going to be a superstar with his offense or lack thereof so that move to me was a failure driven by the drafting of MCW and they would have been better off keeping Holiday (who's injuries would not have affected their tanking) and using their picks on other players.

[AbeVigodaLive]

I'd say the Noel trade was a failure. He traded a young all-star talent in Holliday for Noel who I just don't see all-star potential out of. Maybe he has to be a defensive anchor like Gobert at C to show it, but so far next to Okafor he's not an all-star. That trade basically came about because of the failed draft choice that was MCW. It's hard to know the domino effect that had. Noel was never going to be a superstar with his offense or lack thereof so that move to me was a failure driven by the drafting of MCW and they would have been better off keeping Holiday (who's injuries would not have affected their tanking) and using their picks on other players.

To be fair, I don't if MCW could be labeled a "failure."

The guy was picked 11th. And he's still starting in the NBA. By they way, that draft was supposed to be a bad one. A. Bennett going #1 kinda proves that. But I think it has more decent NBA players than most people would have expected.

At least 1/2 of the 1st round is a legit NBA player. And A. Crabbe led off the 2nd round and he's a good rotation guy now, too.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I'd say the Noel trade was a failure. He traded a young all-star talent in Holliday for Noel who I just don't see all-star potential out of. Maybe he has to be a defensive anchor like Gobert at C to show it, but so far next to Okafor he's not an all-star. That trade basically came about because of the failed draft choice that was MCW. It's hard to know the domino effect that had. Noel was never going to be a superstar with his offense or lack thereof so that move to me was a failure driven by the drafting of MCW and they would have been better off keeping Holiday (who's injuries would not have affected their tanking) and using their picks on other players.

To be fair, I don't if MCW could be labeled a "failure."

The guy was picked 11th. And he's still starting in the NBA. By they way, that draft was supposed to be a bad one. A. Bennett going #1 kinda proves that. But I think it has more decent NBA players than most people would have expected.

At least 1/2 of the 1st round is a legit NBA player. And A. Crabbe led off the 2nd round and he's a good rotation guy now, too.

They traded him away for basically nothing so they could tank better because he wasn't good enough to help them meet their long-term goals. How is that not a draft failure for them? MCW may not be a failure, but their drafting of him is a failure given where they are today and the fact he's not even on the team anymore and they got little back for him.