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LaVine ranks as one of the worst defenders in league and Wiggins is pretty bad too
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:55 pm
by TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]
LaVine ranks 437th out of 441 NBA players in Defensive RPM. Wiggins is 412th.
Re: LaVine ranks as one of the worst defenders in league and Wiggins is pretty bad too
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:58 pm
by TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]
While Thibs was not my choice for coach, I at least thought he'd help Wiggins and LaVine become vastly improved defenders. But that hasn't happened? Who's to blame?
Re: LaVine ranks as one of the worst defenders in league and Wiggins is pretty bad too
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:04 pm
by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
TeamRicky wrote:While Thibs was not my choice for coach, I at least thought he'd help Wiggins and LaVine become vastly improved defenders. But that hasn't happened? Who's to blame?
How about nobody? They're 21 on their 3rd coach in 3 years. This shit just doesn't happen overnight. Does getting Thibs automatically make them 4 years older and 20lbs heavier? Defense typically takes the longest to develop at the NBA level.
Re: LaVine ranks as one of the worst defenders in league and Wiggins is pretty bad too
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:23 pm
by kekgeek
You have became a massive troll ricky
Re: LaVine ranks as one of the worst defenders in league and Wiggins is pretty bad too
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:09 am
by worldK
Im surprised teamricky didn't mention larry sanders as an answer to our defensive woes.
Re: LaVine ranks as one of the worst defenders in league and Wiggins is pretty bad too
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:43 am
by AbeVigodaLive
khans2k5 wrote:TeamRicky wrote:While Thibs was not my choice for coach, I at least thought he'd help Wiggins and LaVine become vastly improved defenders. But that hasn't happened? Who's to blame?
How about nobody? They're 21 on their 3rd coach in 3 years. This shit just doesn't happen overnight. Does getting Thibs automatically make them 4 years older and 20lbs heavier? Defense typically takes the longest to develop at the NBA level.
Sure. Makes sense. And there's a lot of truth in there.
BUT... if we really believe these guys are elite-level players, we need to ramp up the expectations just a bit. Eventually. There are other young players in the league. Many don't have 3 years of experience... heck, Wiggins is among the league leaders in minutes played over the past 3 seasons.
They don't have to be good. Or even average. They simply have to show improvement.
[Note: The caveat is that I really don't care for that stat and don't know exactly how it's even measured, so I don't know how much merit the rankings have.]
Re: LaVine ranks as one of the worst defenders in league and Wiggins is pretty bad too
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:14 am
by kekgeek
AbeVigodaLive wrote:khans2k5 wrote:TeamRicky wrote:While Thibs was not my choice for coach, I at least thought he'd help Wiggins and LaVine become vastly improved defenders. But that hasn't happened? Who's to blame?
How about nobody? They're 21 on their 3rd coach in 3 years. This shit just doesn't happen overnight. Does getting Thibs automatically make them 4 years older and 20lbs heavier? Defense typically takes the longest to develop at the NBA level.
Sure. Makes sense. And there's a lot of truth in there.
BUT... if we really believe these guys are elite-level players, we need to ramp up the expectations just a bit. Eventually. There are other young players in the league. Many don't have 3 years of experience... heck, Wiggins is among the league leaders in minutes played over the past 3 seasons.
They don't have to be good. Or even average. They simply have to show improvement.
[Note: The caveat is that I really don't care for that stat and don't know exactly how it's even measured, so I don't know how much merit the rankings have.]
All you need to know is that Pachulia, norguera, deadmon all rank higher in RPM than Towns. (Towns is the 15th best center, I realize that DRPM is different than RPM)
Re: LaVine ranks as one of the worst defenders in league and Wiggins is pretty bad too
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:53 am
by Coolbreeze44
kekgeek1 wrote:You have became a massive troll ricky
Did he take note of Ricky's defense last night?
Re: LaVine ranks as one of the worst defenders in league and Wiggins is pretty bad too
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:08 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
It makes sense that some of our guys are going to be at the bottom end of that metric when we as a team are at the bottom end defensively! We may not like what it says, but there is some amount of truth in it.
Re: LaVine ranks as one of the worst defenders in league and Wiggins is pretty bad too
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:34 pm
by Monster
Well those guys have played a ton of minutes for a team that's been a top 10 in defensive efficiency for a 20+ game stretch so they much be doing something right. If we are 30 game into next year and we haven't seen some legit improvement I'll be a lot more concerned. Again if Bazz can learn to play D...