Dleague Hummel and reunite Turkoglu with Adelman ?
Dleague Hummel and reunite Turkoglu with Adelman ?
Turkoglu wants back in NBA
By Marc Stein | January 2, 2014 4:30:31 AM PST
The Cleveland Cavaliers have called virtually every team in the league this week as part of their continuing search for a trade partner interested in dealing for Andrew Bynum's cap-friendly contract before the magical date of Jan. 7, according to sources close to the process.
Which is a handy cue to remind us that the Orlando Magic possess the same sort of trade chip with Hedo Turkoglu and his similarly structured deal.
In both cases, only half of Bynum and Turkoglu's respective $12 million expiring contracts are guaranteed this season. Any team employing either player on Jan. 7 can thus save $6 million in salary -- and potentially more depending on where they are luxury-tax wise -- by releasing Bynum or Turkoglu in time to ensure they clear waivers before Jan. 10.
Yet there is one big difference between the Bynum and Turkoglu situations.
The Cavaliers, despite their disastrous 10-21 start, still have playoff aspirations in the "Leastern Conference." So they appear to be willing to add some salary in a Bynum trade if they can land a difference-making asset, as evidenced by Cleveland's recent trade talks with the Los Angeles Lakers to acquire $19.3 million man Pau Gasol.
Orlando is not in the same place. Although the Magic decided to keep Turkoglu on their roster through Jan. 7 just in case a trade of some sort materialized in which his contract was needed, they're not chasing the likes of Gasol in support of a playoff push, which makes a trade even trickier for Orlando than it is for the Cavs to find a workable Bynum deal.
I'm told Turkoglu, incidentally, remains determined to relaunch his NBA career later this month when he is finally waived by the Magic or any other team that happens to trade for him in the next five days. The 34-year-old will become a free agent Jan. 10 after clearing waivers and has been working out on his own away from the team all season after Turkoglu and the Magic mutually agreed that he would not join the rest of the squad while they tried to find him a new home.
One source close to Turkoglu told ESPN.com this week that he remains confident he can still make an NBA contribution and badly wants the chance to show it after the rebuilding Magic decided that the 13-year veteran didn't fit in with a rebuilding program.
By Marc Stein | January 2, 2014 4:30:31 AM PST
The Cleveland Cavaliers have called virtually every team in the league this week as part of their continuing search for a trade partner interested in dealing for Andrew Bynum's cap-friendly contract before the magical date of Jan. 7, according to sources close to the process.
Which is a handy cue to remind us that the Orlando Magic possess the same sort of trade chip with Hedo Turkoglu and his similarly structured deal.
In both cases, only half of Bynum and Turkoglu's respective $12 million expiring contracts are guaranteed this season. Any team employing either player on Jan. 7 can thus save $6 million in salary -- and potentially more depending on where they are luxury-tax wise -- by releasing Bynum or Turkoglu in time to ensure they clear waivers before Jan. 10.
Yet there is one big difference between the Bynum and Turkoglu situations.
The Cavaliers, despite their disastrous 10-21 start, still have playoff aspirations in the "Leastern Conference." So they appear to be willing to add some salary in a Bynum trade if they can land a difference-making asset, as evidenced by Cleveland's recent trade talks with the Los Angeles Lakers to acquire $19.3 million man Pau Gasol.
Orlando is not in the same place. Although the Magic decided to keep Turkoglu on their roster through Jan. 7 just in case a trade of some sort materialized in which his contract was needed, they're not chasing the likes of Gasol in support of a playoff push, which makes a trade even trickier for Orlando than it is for the Cavs to find a workable Bynum deal.
I'm told Turkoglu, incidentally, remains determined to relaunch his NBA career later this month when he is finally waived by the Magic or any other team that happens to trade for him in the next five days. The 34-year-old will become a free agent Jan. 10 after clearing waivers and has been working out on his own away from the team all season after Turkoglu and the Magic mutually agreed that he would not join the rest of the squad while they tried to find him a new home.
One source close to Turkoglu told ESPN.com this week that he remains confident he can still make an NBA contribution and badly wants the chance to show it after the rebuilding Magic decided that the 13-year veteran didn't fit in with a rebuilding program.
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Re: Dleague Hummel and reunite Turkoglu with Adelman ?
Who would we trade to get him? Not entirely sure I even want Turk, but he was productive in the past on those successful Magic teams who had a post presence. Obviously we have two in Love and Pek so maybe Turk could fit in here.
Doesn't seem like a move Flip would make, though. 34-year old SF who hasn't even been playing pro ball this season. Lot of risk bringing in guys like Turk.
Doesn't seem like a move Flip would make, though. 34-year old SF who hasn't even been playing pro ball this season. Lot of risk bringing in guys like Turk.
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Re: Dleague Hummel and reunite Turkoglu with Adelman ?
By the way...
Hope you paid attention last night. You wanted 8-10 shots with Ricky? He shot 6. Stuffed the stat sheet like he usually does and played damn good defense. We won the game.
And since I know you love PER so much... Rubio's is currently 15.52.
Hope you paid attention last night. You wanted 8-10 shots with Ricky? He shot 6. Stuffed the stat sheet like he usually does and played damn good defense. We won the game.
And since I know you love PER so much... Rubio's is currently 15.52.
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Re: Dleague Hummel and reunite Turkoglu with Adelman ?
Nobody is paying for Turkoglu. I think he'll be waived soon.
Depending what kind of shape he's in and how serious he is, it would be worth considering. That assumes, of course, that he would sign for the Vet Minimum. He's not that old (the HEAT count on several players around his age or older) and his skill set would fit perfectly with our 2nd unit.
Hummel and Price (since Shved plays PG and is preferred by Adelman) are easily expendable, so it's not like it would be a tough move to make.
Depending what kind of shape he's in and how serious he is, it would be worth considering. That assumes, of course, that he would sign for the Vet Minimum. He's not that old (the HEAT count on several players around his age or older) and his skill set would fit perfectly with our 2nd unit.
Hummel and Price (since Shved plays PG and is preferred by Adelman) are easily expendable, so it's not like it would be a tough move to make.
Re: Dleague Hummel and reunite Turkoglu with Adelman ?
The article stated if no trades were offered by the 7 it is expected he will clear waivers and become a fa.
Rubio had a great game , the kinda scoring this team needs from him. Are we gonna go back and forth everytime he has a good game or a bad one? Seems a bit childish. So I dont share the same opinion as u. Get over it. Its kind of the point in having a fan forum.
Im suprised u havent sought me out everytime love makes a successful outlet pass.:/
Rubio had a great game , the kinda scoring this team needs from him. Are we gonna go back and forth everytime he has a good game or a bad one? Seems a bit childish. So I dont share the same opinion as u. Get over it. Its kind of the point in having a fan forum.
Im suprised u havent sought me out everytime love makes a successful outlet pass.:/
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PorkChop wrote:The article stated if no trades were offered by the 7 it is expected he will clear waivers and become a fa.
Rubio had a great game , the kinda scoring this team needs from him. Are we gonna go back and forth everytime he has a good game or a bad one? Seems a bit childish. So I dont share the same opinion as u. Get over it. Its kind of the point in having message board.
Im suprised u havent sought me out everytime love makes a successful outlet pass.:/
Not trying to change the topic of the thread, but it was more of a little jab at you for saying what you did the other day. You practically ignored all of Rubio's positive contributions to the game and solely focused on his scoring. I'm glad he scored enough for you, though. Also, the point was that even if he didn't score 14 points and scored whatever, the game was well in hand with him doing what he does. Running the offense, playing defense, forcing turnovers, rebounding the basketball. All things he does at a high level.
Childish or not, you can say whatever you'd like. This is the first time I've reminded you about something you've said. I'm not allowed to do that on a message board? I also don't want you to share my opinions. I'd like to point out when you're wrong, though.
Speaking of Love's outlet passes, boy, they're starting to come alive again. Couple more beauty's that resulted in easy points. Better execution, better results. That goes for anything, however.
As for Turk, if he's willing to sign for the vet minimum, I don't see why he can't contribute more than Hummel as long as he's healthy, in shape and mentally ready for a playoff team. Actually, he's a better Hummel before Hummel was even in the league.
Re: Dleague Hummel and reunite Turkoglu with Adelman ?
I think Hedu could replace the shooting the wolves arent getting from Brewer and Hummel. Having played on the successful Sactown teams in the early2000's he would fit seamlessly into the system. He'd look great coming off that woeful bench.
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Re: Dleague Hummel and reunite Turkoglu with Adelman ?
Hedo is a terrible idea IMHO
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You don't open a roster spot by sending someone to the d-league. You would need to release them.
I would say send Hummel to the D-league to force Adelman to give Shabazz his minutes.
I would say send Hummel to the D-league to force Adelman to give Shabazz his minutes.
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Re: Dleague Hummel and reunite Turkoglu with Adelman ?
He would be a good pick up.. Just cut AJ.. A bench of JJ/Bud/Turk/Danta/Truiaf.. Looks a lot betten then what were rolling with now... Pay him the VET, Low risk high reward..