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Good read on Shabazz and Rubio

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:58 am
by bleedspeed
http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Numbers_Game_On_what_planet_were_Wolves_good_enough_to_sit_Shabazz022614

Re: Good read on Shabazz and Rubio

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:07 am
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
Thanks bleedspeed. Mackey sees the two things that most of us on this board are so painfully aware of also. Adelman's poor choices created a lost season for the Wolves that didn't have to be lost.

Re: Good read on Shabazz and Rubio

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:47 am
by kms789 [enjin:6694798]
My only gripe with this is he uses On/Off numbers to say Rubio is better than Barea. That really isn't fair considering Rubio plays with Love/Pek/Martin/Brewer and Barea plays with a D-League caliber bench.

I mean, Rubio is better than Barea, but that's not a good stat to prove it.

Re: Good read on Shabazz and Rubio

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:05 pm
by markkbu [enjin:6588958]
kms789 wrote:My only gripe with this is he uses On/Off numbers to say Rubio is better than Barea. That really isn't fair considering Rubio plays with Love/Pek/Martin/Brewer and Barea plays with a D-League caliber bench.

I mean, Rubio is better than Barea, but that's not a good stat to prove it.



Agree....that is a very poor way to prove that point

Re: Good read on Shabazz and Rubio

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:41 pm
by The Rage Monster [enjin:8010341]
markkbu wrote:
kms789 wrote:My only gripe with this is he uses On/Off numbers to say Rubio is better than Barea. That really isn't fair considering Rubio plays with Love/Pek/Martin/Brewer and Barea plays with a D-League caliber bench.

I mean, Rubio is better than Barea, but that's not a good stat to prove it.



Agree....that is a very poor way to prove that point


It might not be the best method for comparison because other factors come into play but I think it was the simplest method that gets to main point that despite his shooting everyone still plays better with Rubio than they do with Barea.

Looking at 5 man units on 82 games might have been the better option. Given they're playing with the starters: Martin, Brewer, Love, and Pek are the other 4 on the court, the eFG% with Rubio is 47% and with Barea it is 40%.

Re: Good read on Shabazz and Rubio

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:55 pm
by markkbu [enjin:6588958]
The Rage Monster wrote:
markkbu wrote:
kms789 wrote:My only gripe with this is he uses On/Off numbers to say Rubio is better than Barea. That really isn't fair considering Rubio plays with Love/Pek/Martin/Brewer and Barea plays with a D-League caliber bench.

I mean, Rubio is better than Barea, but that's not a good stat to prove it.



Agree....that is a very poor way to prove that point


It might not be the best method for comparison because other factors come into play but I think it was the simplest method that gets to main point that despite his shooting everyone still plays better with Rubio than they do with Barea.

Looking at 5 man units on 82 games might have been the better option. Given they're playing with the starters: Martin, Brewer, Love, and Pek are the other 4 on the court, the eFG% with Rubio is 47% and with Barea it is 40%.



Yes, Rage, I think that you method for proving his point is far more effective.