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Ben Simmons
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:56 am
by Carlos Danger
Re: Ben Simmons
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:08 am
by 60WinTim
Well there you go!! Simmons has just 2 years left, so the Wolves may only be looking at one year of luxury tax if the swap is made for KAT. Obviously there are a lot more pieces involved, but this is the first legit talk we have seen that clearly involves KAT (unless it's Rudy?!?).
Re: Ben Simmons
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:39 am
by thedoper
Who is Andy Bailey? We better get like 10 draft picks if we are taking Simmons.
Re: Ben Simmons
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:50 am
by Lipoli390
thedoper wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:39 am
Who is Andy Bailey? We better get like 10 draft picks if we are taking Simmons.
No kidding! I don’t see a KAT for Simmons deal making any sense. The Nets don’t have enough future 1st round picks to justify the swap. Now, if we’re also getting Bridges, then sign me up. A more realistic scenario would be a Rudy for Simmons swap. But even that doesn’t make sense to me.
Unless the Wolves were to get Bridges in return, a KAT or Rudy swap for Simmons isn’t consistent with TC’s goal of winning next season. I might be persuaded by a Rudy for Simmons swap that also brought back maximum draft compensation in return. Simmons has negative trade value right now. He’s just a contract. It might make some sense for the Wolves to make a deal for Simmons if he had only one year left on his deal. But the second apron cliff will be upon us next summer and we’d be stuck with the worst contract in the NBA for another year - $30M for player who doesn’t appear interested in playing and who probably can’t or won’t play.
This strikes me as a completely bogus report.
Re: Ben Simmons
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:50 am
by KG4Ever
thedoper wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:39 am
Who is Andy Bailey? We better get like 10 draft picks if we are taking Simmons.
Very true or Mikal Bridges and 5 picks. I'm afraid Timmy though is offering pick swaps on all the remaining firsts that haven't been swapped plus all seconds. It seems anyone can post a BR article and make up some ridiculous trade.
Re: Ben Simmons
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:10 pm
by kekgeek
So I wouldn’t do it but the Nets have 8 1st round picks to offer until 2029.
You get 3 or 4 for Kat the player and 2 more for taking on the salary. Wolves would save 13 million next year also
Re: Ben Simmons
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:23 pm
by Carlos Danger
kekgeek wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:10 pm
So I wouldn’t do it but the Nets have 8 1st round picks to offer until 2029.
You get 3 or 4 for Kat the player and 2 more for taking on the salary. Wolves would save 13 million next year also
I would love that. Can I ask why you wouldn't do it?
I realize Simmons is a mystery box. But I'm thinking at worst - the guy would be nice back up/off the bench PG. Obviously the picks would be the prize. And of course you always have the hope that Simmons rebounds into something closer to a starter level PG to take over for Conley.
Re: Ben Simmons
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:24 pm
by Carlos Danger
Edit - I somehow F'd up my edit and created a second post. Tim - you can delete this one if you wish. I'm wiping out the text to avoid confusion.
Re: Ben Simmons
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:53 pm
by kekgeek
Carlos Danger wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:23 pm
kekgeek wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:10 pm
So I wouldn’t do it but the Nets have 8 1st round picks to offer until 2029.
You get 3 or 4 for Kat the player and 2 more for taking on the salary. Wolves would save 13 million next year also
I would love that. Can I ask why you wouldn't do it?
I realize Simmons is a mystery box. But I'm thinking at worst - the guy would be nice back up/off the bench PG. Obviously the picks would be the prize. And of course you always have the hope that Simmons rebounds into something closer to a starter level PG to take over for Conley.
I guess I wouldn’t hate it. I do like some of this Suns and Mavs picks they have. It’s just all of the wolves shooting could be gone
Re: Ben Simmons
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:59 pm
by 60WinTim
kekgeek wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:53 pm
Carlos Danger wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:23 pm
kekgeek wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:10 pm
So I wouldn’t do it but the Nets have 8 1st round picks to offer until 2029.
You get 3 or 4 for Kat the player and 2 more for taking on the salary. Wolves would save 13 million next year also
I would love that. Can I ask why you wouldn't do it?
I realize Simmons is a mystery box. But I'm thinking at worst - the guy would be nice back up/off the bench PG. Obviously the picks would be the prize. And of course you always have the hope that Simmons rebounds into something closer to a starter level PG to take over for Conley.
I guess I wouldn’t hate it. I do like some of this Suns and Mavs picks they have. It’s just all of the wolves shooting could be gone
Who needs shooting with all the defense we are stockpiling?!?
