It's time to move on from DLO....

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Re: It's time to move on from DLO....

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Tactical unit wrote:Anyone on board with my trade offer? Think Rosas might do it?

NYN = DLO, (19), Future 2nd
MN = Burks, (11), Future 1st Top 10 protected


Minnesota would have to take back significantly more salary than just Alec Burks. For instance, Burks plus Nerlens Noel and Kemba Walker would work as far as matching goes, but roster spots, team fit, and guaranteed money could become an issue.

Burks plus Evan Fournier would work, and I think the Knicks would love to get off of his long-term deal, but that's something the Wolves shouldn't even consider. I also don't think Minnesota would be able to pry a future first-round pick for D'Angelo Russell considering he's on an expiring deal. Teams don't often give up those assets for players that can walk a year from now.

I'm sure New York will be linked to Russell all off-season, but I don't think they're a suitable trade partner for a number of reasons, if Minnesota does resort to shopping their point guard.
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Camden wrote:
Tactical unit wrote:Anyone on board with my trade offer? Think Rosas might do it?

NYN = DLO, (19), Future 2nd
MN = Burks, (11), Future 1st Top 10 protected


Minnesota would have to take back significantly more salary than just Alec Burks. For instance, Burks plus Nerlens Noel and Kemba Walker would work as far as matching goes, but roster spots, team fit, and guaranteed money could become an issue.

Burks plus Evan Fournier would work, and I think the Knicks would love to get off of his long-term deal, but that's something the Wolves shouldn't even consider. I also don't think Minnesota would be able to pry a future first-round pick for D'Angelo Russell considering he's on an expiring deal. Teams don't often give up those assets for players that can walk a year from now.

I'm sure New York will be linked to Russell all off-season, but I don't think they're a suitable trade partner for a number of reasons, if Minnesota does resort to shopping their point guard.


The thing I will add here is that if the Wolves were to receive Burks back in some sort of deal I do think he would have some worthwhile trade value around the league.
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Re: It's time to move on from DLO....

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Camden wrote:
Tactical unit wrote:Anyone on board with my trade offer? Think Rosas might do it?

NYN = DLO, (19), Future 2nd
MN = Burks, (11), Future 1st Top 10 protected


Minnesota would have to take back significantly more salary than just Alec Burks. For instance, Burks plus Nerlens Noel and Kemba Walker would work as far as matching goes, but roster spots, team fit, and guaranteed money could become an issue.

Burks plus Evan Fournier would work, and I think the Knicks would love to get off of his long-term deal, but that's something the Wolves shouldn't even consider. I also don't think Minnesota would be able to pry a future first-round pick for D'Angelo Russell considering he's on an expiring deal. Teams don't often give up those assets for players that can walk a year from now.

I'm sure New York will be linked to Russell all off-season, but I don't think they're a suitable trade partner for a number of reasons, if Minnesota does resort to shopping their point guard.


I deal I could envision would be DLO for Randle, Kemba and the Knicks #11. That deal would give the Knicks the good PG they need and rid themselves of Randle and the remaining 4 years of his inflated deal. It would be a great deal for the Knicks in my view. The only reason for the Wolves to consider that deal is to get a prospect at #11 who they absolutely love. Otherwise, Kemba would have some value as an expiring $8 million contract to deal at the trade deadline. Randle would be a 4-year anchor around the Wolves neck. If I knew the Wolves would get Dyson Daniels at #11 I might consider it. But otherwise, I'd rather keep DLO.
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It only takes one GM to be in love with Dlo for something to happen, but, as I think we're realizing thru this thread, that it's really hard to envision what that deal might look like. I think, sitting here today, that we're likely going to have another year of Dlo as the Wolves PG... which is ok with me. He's a darned good player -- not perfect, and not on a value contract. But still pretty darned good.
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Re: It's time to move on from DLO....

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Camden wrote:
Tactical unit wrote:Anyone on board with my trade offer? Think Rosas might do it?

NYN = DLO, (19), Future 2nd
MN = Burks, (11), Future 1st Top 10 protected


Minnesota would have to take back significantly more salary than just Alec Burks. For instance, Burks plus Nerlens Noel and Kemba Walker would work as far as matching goes, but roster spots, team fit, and guaranteed money could become an issue.

Burks plus Evan Fournier would work, and I think the Knicks would love to get off of his long-term deal, but that's something the Wolves shouldn't even consider. I also don't think Minnesota would be able to pry a future first-round pick for D'Angelo Russell considering he's on an expiring deal. Teams don't often give up those assets for players that can walk a year from now.

I'm sure New York will be linked to Russell all off-season, but I don't think they're a suitable trade partner for a number of reasons, if Minnesota does resort to shopping their point guard.


So many complexities of being a GM that I am not familiar with. Why couldn't DLO for Burks work? NYN are below the cap by a wide margin so why do salaries have to match? NYN couldn't extend DLO upon trading for him?
Maybe it would look more like NYN add DLO, (19) while MN gets Burks, Walker, (11) and 1st round swap rights in 2023?
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Tactical unit wrote:Anyone on board with my trade offer? Think Rosas might do it?

NYN = DLO, (19), Future 2nd
MN = Burks, (11), Future 1st Top 10 protected

Rosas is NOT the GM.

The Knicks turn this down rather easily.
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lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:
Tactical unit wrote:Anyone on board with my trade offer? Think Rosas might do it?

NYN = DLO, (19), Future 2nd
MN = Burks, (11), Future 1st Top 10 protected


Minnesota would have to take back significantly more salary than just Alec Burks. For instance, Burks plus Nerlens Noel and Kemba Walker would work as far as matching goes, but roster spots, team fit, and guaranteed money could become an issue.

Burks plus Evan Fournier would work, and I think the Knicks would love to get off of his long-term deal, but that's something the Wolves shouldn't even consider. I also don't think Minnesota would be able to pry a future first-round pick for D'Angelo Russell considering he's on an expiring deal. Teams don't often give up those assets for players that can walk a year from now.

I'm sure New York will be linked to Russell all off-season, but I don't think they're a suitable trade partner for a number of reasons, if Minnesota does resort to shopping their point guard.


I deal I could envision would be DLO for Randle, Kemba and the Knicks #11. That deal would give the Knicks the good PG they need and rid themselves of Randle and the remaining 4 years of his inflated deal. It would be a great deal for the Knicks in my view. The only reason for the Wolves to consider that deal is to get a prospect at #11 who they absolutely love. Otherwise, Kemba would have some value as an expiring $8 million contract to deal at the trade deadline. Randle would be a 4-year anchor around the Wolves neck. If I knew the Wolves would get Dyson Daniels at #11 I might consider it. But otherwise, I'd rather keep DLO.

No prospect at 11 is worth Julius Randle. Avoid albatross deals at all costs and Randle might have the worst deal going at the moment. He dogged it completely last year.

As for Kemba, he's one of my favorite players of the last few years, but he is absolutely shot. He's a buyout candidate upon arrival.
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The source is Doogie, so you can't run to the bank with this scoop. But it looks like my dream deal of DLO to the Wizards for the draft rights to Dyson Daniels will never be more than a dream :)

Darren Wolfson: The Wizards are not interested in (D'Angelo) Russell. Yes, the Wizards are looking for a lead guard, and I am told no interest in D'Angelo Russell. 5 days ago - via Spotify
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lipoli390 wrote:The source is Doogie, so you can't run to the bank with this scoop. But it looks like my dream deal of DLO to the Wizards for the draft rights to Dyson Daniels will never be more than a dream :)

Darren Wolfson: The Wizards are not interested in (D'Angelo) Russell. Yes, the Wizards are looking for a lead guard, and I am told no interest in D'Angelo Russell. 5 days ago - via Spotify


I heard this directly from listening to Wolfson's podcast yesterday. I didn't have the heart to break the news to you myself. Lol :)
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lipoli390 wrote:The source is Doogie, so you can't run to the bank with this scoop. But it looks like my dream deal of DLO to the Wizards for the draft rights to Dyson Daniels will never be more than a dream :)

Darren Wolfson: The Wizards are not interested in (D'Angelo) Russell. Yes, the Wizards are looking for a lead guard, and I am told no interest in D'Angelo Russell. 5 days ago - via Spotify


I've given up on the idea of Daniels, but I kind of like the point guards that might be available at 19 (Chandler and TyTy) and 40-50 (Nembhard), and the Wolves have worked out Chandler and Nembhard already. Chandler is so quick and has such a high BB IQ (he's only 19 and he has a deep bag of finishing tricks), he's fearless at attacking the rim, had 2.2 steals a game, very good passer, tight handles, excellent as an on-ball defender, and shot over 40% from 3s in tournament season (38.3% for season, he shot 3s at over 50% clip in high school, though he struggled from the free throw line in his one year of college, he was a good free throw shooter in high school and in U19 play and Barnes says he hits 95% in practice, so I am not worried about his free throw shooting as his shooting mechanics are solid. His height knocks him way down as he is 5"11.5 without shoes but that is same height as CP3, Conley and Kemba were as prospects, and he is longer than CP3 and Kemba with a wingspan of 6'5.25 and had highest vertical at combine (41 inches) so he can elevate well when attacking the rim. I'd love him running the point feeding KAT, Ant, Hartenstein (Nurkic or Drummond) and McDaniels in a fast paced offense. He can also play off the ball and creates separation on his outside shot with some nice hesi moves and because he is a constant threat to break towards the rim with his first quick step, defenders can't play him too tight. I love Chandler's upside and hope he's our pick but I could live with a good three and D prospect too like Eason or Jalen Williams and hopefully then we grab Nembhard in round 2, who is a very heady point guard that is a taller version of Tyus Jones or Monte Morris.
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