Would you do Beasley for Collins

[Wolvesfan21]

I really don't see the offensive ability for McDaniels to compare him to Pippen. Pippin had a great offensive skill set. I see McDaniels as a potential elite 3 and D guy with maybe a little offensive skill. I'm not sure his handle, passing and finishing will ever get really good.

He needs to add 25 pounds, and get up 10 thousand shots over the summer, just tighten up that shot and especially the corner 3 ball.

Pippen came into the league at the age of 22, let's give the kid some time. I'm not saying he is going to become anywhere close to Pippen, but he has that ceiling. Few players reach their ceiling, I get that.

OK I could go for that I suppose. If I were him I would focus adding muscle mass so he can rebound better, and tighten up the shot. He can do those things and have a really long career. Wether he adds more skill along the way that would be nice as well. If you can defend, shoot 3's and rebound at a mid to high level any team in the league would be happy to have you.

[AbeVigodaLive]

So if I'm following correctly...

- McDaniels has Pippen potential.
- Edwards has D. Wade potential.
- Towns has Kareem potential.
- Beasley has Klay Thompson potential.
- JMac has Fred VanVleet potential.
- Bolmaro has Doncic potential.

I'm a firm believer in actual NBA talent/production >>>> hypothetical best-case scenarios. For all his promise and surprisingly good defense... McDaniels is still struggling on the court at times, especially on offense. How would he fare with more run against opponent's top lineups?

I get the potential angle. But if another team wants to take a flyer on promise and the Wolves get a young guy already nearing his prime...

... count me in.

[Coolbreeze44]

I really don't see the offensive ability for McDaniels to compare him to Pippen. Pippin had a great offensive skill set. I see McDaniels as a potential elite 3 and D guy with maybe a little offensive skill. I'm not sure his handle, passing and finishing will ever get really good.

He needs to add 25 pounds, and get up 10 thousand shots over the summer, just tighten up that shot and especially the corner 3 ball.

Pippen came into the league at the age of 22, let's give the kid some time. I'm not saying he is going to become anywhere close to Pippen, but he has that ceiling. Few players reach their ceiling, I get that.

OK I could go for that I suppose. If I were him I would focus adding muscle mass so he can rebound better, and tighten up the shot. He can do those things and have a really long career. Wether he adds more skill along the way that would be nice as well. If you can defend, shoot 3's and rebound at a mid to high level any team in the league would be happy to have you.

You know I think he has better skill than he's shown. One thing I notice is he really doesn't look for his offense unless he's behind the arc. He's the opposite of a ball stopper, when he gets the rock he immediately passes or shoots it. Looking forward to seeing a little more confidence in his own game. However it's actually kind of refreshing as we have too many guys playing for statistics.

[TheFuture]

I'm reading that Atlanta remains one of the few teams that are still high on Jarrett Culver. Maybe something like this could work?

Wolves:
- John Collins
- Tony Snell

Hawks:
- 2024 first-round pick (top-10 protected)
- Jarrett Culver
- Jarred Vanderbilt
- Juan Hernangomez

God I hope the team doesn't double down to fix their mistakes by moving another first round pick. Especially to pay a guy more than he is worth. I liked your idea of Larry Nance for cheap a whole lot more.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I'm reading that Atlanta remains one of the few teams that are still high on Jarrett Culver. Maybe something like this could work?

Wolves:
- John Collins
- Tony Snell

Hawks:
- 2024 first-round pick (top-10 protected)
- Jarrett Culver
- Jarred Vanderbilt
- Juan Hernangomez

God I hope the team doesn't double down to fix their mistakes by moving another first round pick. Especially to pay a guy more than he is worth. I liked your idea of Larry Nance for cheap a whole lot more.

Fair. I totally get not wanting to cough up another future draft pick, but I would say that if the Wolves were to make this trade and things didn't work out they could likely recoup that asset in moving John Collins down the road.

[Porckchop]

If the first pick in the upcoming draft was a sure thing then yes. But assuming that's not to be where does the perimeter offense come from if Beasley is gone? Our perimeter would be a vast wasteland. Should've just drafted Wiseman and put Towns at Pf at that point.

[KG4Ever]

I'm reading that Atlanta remains one of the few teams that are still high on Jarrett Culver. Maybe something like this could work?

Wolves:
- John Collins
- Tony Snell

Hawks:
- 2024 first-round pick (top-10 protected)
- Jarrett Culver
- Jarred Vanderbilt
- Juan Hernangomez

God I hope the team doesn't double down to fix their mistakes by moving another first round pick. Especially to pay a guy more than he is worth. I liked your idea of Larry Nance for cheap a whole lot more.

Fair. I totally get not wanting to cough up another future draft pick, but I would say that if the Wolves were to make this trade and things didn't work out they could likely recoup that asset in moving John Collins down the road.

Never underestimate how bad the Wolves will be and I doubt the Wolves would be able to recoup a pick as valuable as they give up. Also, injuries occur and he may not live up to a max deal. You probably used the same rationale with DLO and the consensus view is that it will be difficult enough to move his salary let alone getting a meaningful first round pick back.. I don't want to trade any more first rounders as the Wolves need all their picks with their inevitable rebuild. While Collins is a good player he's not a franchise player that would make the Wolves title contenders and the Wolves need to look to the draft to find franchise players (hopefully with someone other than Rosas making the picks).

[KG4Ever]

Wolves history of trading away first round picks for players: Budinger, Webster, Payne, DLO and Cash (over Rudy Gobert). 0 for 5. I believe Wolves had choice of Bennett or a first and another miss. Did I miss any?

Edit: The only trade that you could argue made sense was Butler, but I have always maintained that Rent-a-Jimmy was a bad move and now Lavine is a young All-Star and not on a max deal and we don't have the pick.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Wolves history of trading away first round picks for players: Budinger, Webster, Payne, DLO and Cash (over Rudy Gobert). 0 for 5. I believe Wolves had choice of Bennett or a first and another miss. Did I miss any?

D'Angelo Russell doesn't deserve to be in that group and even his biggest detractors would likely attest to that. Anyways, I do understand the viewpoint of "don't trade future first-round picks," but I also realize that young and proven talent is difficult to acquire, especially for this franchise. If you can do so as a front office then I will usually support it if the cost is reasonable.

Also, I believe the Wolves could have had Thaddeus Young or Miami's first-round pick and took the [at the time] 26-year old Young, which I thought was an alright decision. Flip Saunders shot himself in the foot when he decided to trade Young later that season for five games of then 38-year old Kevin Garnett. Ah, memories...

[KG4Ever]

Wolves history of trading away first round picks for players: Budinger, Webster, Payne, DLO and Cash (over Rudy Gobert). 0 for 5. I believe Wolves had choice of Bennett or a first and another miss. Did I miss any?

D'Angelo Russell doesn't deserve to be in that group and even his biggest detractors would likely attest to that. Anyways, I do understand the viewpoint of "don't trade future first-round picks," but I also realize that young and proven talent is difficult to acquire, especially for this franchise. If you can do so as a front office then I will usually support it if the cost is reasonable.

Also, I believe the Wolves could have had Thaddeus Young or Miami's first-round pick and took the [at the time] 26-year old Young, which I thought was an alright decision. Flip Saunders shot himself in the foot when he decided to trade Young later that season for five games of then 38-year old Kevin Garnett. Ah, memories...

I thought I was among his biggest detractors and I'd say DLO does belong in the bad first round pick trades, especially since its like the most valuable first rounder given up by the Wolves (plus right now, we give up pick 31 too). Its becoming a consensus opinion even in the national media that the DLO trade was a bad one for the Wolves (and I know you are in the minority in liking the trade) but the only difference is that DLO is still playing and there is some hope that DLO (though I think very slim odds) justifies the trade.