News from the Orlando Bubble
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That PG trade is really looking bad, really reallllyyy bad right now.
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Camden0916 wrote:kekgeek1 wrote:This is why you select a wing high in the draft. Wiseman will never be able to do what we watched Luka and Kawhi did!
Neither will Anthony Edwards or LaMelo Ball in all likelihood.
Also, Anthony Davis dominated Game 2 for the Lakers the other night, kek. He was the best player on the entire court during those 48-minutes. I thought bigs don't matter to winning? Giving you a friendly jab, but keeping you honest here. Wiseman has a clearer path to stardom than Ball or Edwards, in my opinion.
I think Ball sucks and think he is the most overrated prospect in years.
I completely understand why you would want Wiseman. I think he for sure has the least bust potential in this draft. He also has a big upside, it could obviously be me but I'm worried about how much big men contribute to playoff success.
If Edwards and wiseman both became All NBA, I would rather have Edwards. Same if they both became all stars, boarderline all stars, starters or just roll players. I would rather have the kris Middleton type of player over the world over every big outside of Davis.
I think we both agree Edwards has high upside but a lot bigger floor. I'm willing to gamble on that upside even if he doesn't hit it
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kekgeek1 wrote:Camden0916 wrote:kekgeek1 wrote:This is why you select a wing high in the draft. Wiseman will never be able to do what we watched Luka and Kawhi did!
Neither will Anthony Edwards or LaMelo Ball in all likelihood.
Also, Anthony Davis dominated Game 2 for the Lakers the other night, kek. He was the best player on the entire court during those 48-minutes. I thought bigs don't matter to winning? Giving you a friendly jab, but keeping you honest here. Wiseman has a clearer path to stardom than Ball or Edwards, in my opinion.
I think Ball sucks and think he is the most overrated prospect in years.
I completely understand why you would want Wiseman. I think he for sure has the least bust potential in this draft. He also has a big upside, it could obviously be me but I'm worried about how much big men contribute to playoff success.
If Edwards and wiseman both became All NBA, I would rather have Edwards. Same if they both became all stars, boarderline all stars, starters or just roll players. I would rather have the kris Middleton type of player over the world over every big outside of Davis.
I think we both agree Edwards has high upside but a lot bigger floor. I'm willing to gamble on that upside even if he doesn't hit it
I was in on the "why choose another big man in a league DOMINATED by wings" angle. And I questioned the selection of Wiseman.
I'm slightly less adamant about it.
1. I still prefer the Wolves trade down.
2. I'm entirely underwhelmed by the top prospects.
3. Wiseman's floor seems significantly higher than any of the top guys.
4. Don't the Wolves already have their superstar? Second star?
I believe this draft is a crapshoot. All I'm hoping for is that the current regime is either smarter than other teams... or... luckier.
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Volans19 wrote:That PG trade is really looking bad, really reallllyyy bad right now.
So is having Reggie Jackson even on the court in critical moments. I think he's a mostly terrible player... They need Beverley back.
Why wouldn't Rivers have George and Leonard on all action anywhere remotely close to Doncic... switch or not switch?
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A big man that doesn't reach his full potential will add more value on the court compared to a back court player that doesn't reach his potential. Rebounds, blocks and size will come easier to a big man than a guard that can't hit shots but still looks to be useful.
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What does Huston do if OKC manages to knock them out? Crazy.
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thedoper wrote:What does Huston do if OKC manages to knock them out? Crazy.
I mean Westbrook hasn't played in the series and the is sort of huge
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OKC tied their series with Houston tonight. And Houston set a new record for missed threes. Isiah Thomas commented on the outcome of the game and I thought he nailed it. He said that "Houston continues to want to win their way instead of just winning the basketball game." He added that it's almost as if they're trying to prove a point that their system works. Then he talked about how you need to focus on getting your points any way you can, including mid-range field goals and layups. He emphasized how long perimeter shots get tougher to make late in games as players legs get tired.
The Rockets loss tonight and those insightful comments from I. Thomas triggered the bad feeling I've had from the beginning about the decision to hire Gersson Rosas. I always through of him as that career lieutenant or bureaucrat who isn't an independent, original or creative thinker. I think he came here intending to establish the Houston Rockets North even though he said he wasn't doing that. But in the short time, he's repeatedly, emphatically and annoyingly emphasized their vision of a system. And in the first season of the Rosas regime, the Wolves were third in the League in 3-point attempts. Both of Gersson's to signature trade-deadline deals brought in players known for their three-point shooting but also for their poor defense.
Isiah Thomas is right. And we had better hope that Gersson comes to his senses and realizes that it's hard enough to win in the NBA without limiting yourself to your favorite style or system. To paraphrase Isiah Thomas, it's not how you win, but whether you win that matters. And winning in the NBA is tough, which means you have to use have a multifaceted approach that gives you the best opportunity to win -- threes, mid-range, layups, and of course DEFENSE.
The Rockets loss tonight and those insightful comments from I. Thomas triggered the bad feeling I've had from the beginning about the decision to hire Gersson Rosas. I always through of him as that career lieutenant or bureaucrat who isn't an independent, original or creative thinker. I think he came here intending to establish the Houston Rockets North even though he said he wasn't doing that. But in the short time, he's repeatedly, emphatically and annoyingly emphasized their vision of a system. And in the first season of the Rosas regime, the Wolves were third in the League in 3-point attempts. Both of Gersson's to signature trade-deadline deals brought in players known for their three-point shooting but also for their poor defense.
Isiah Thomas is right. And we had better hope that Gersson comes to his senses and realizes that it's hard enough to win in the NBA without limiting yourself to your favorite style or system. To paraphrase Isiah Thomas, it's not how you win, but whether you win that matters. And winning in the NBA is tough, which means you have to use have a multifaceted approach that gives you the best opportunity to win -- threes, mid-range, layups, and of course DEFENSE.
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lipoli390 wrote:OKC tied their series with Houston tonight. And Houston set a new record for missed threes. Isiah Thomas commented on the outcome of the game and I though he nailed it. He said that "Houston continues to want to win their way instead of just winning the basketball game." He added that it's almost as if they're trying to prove a point that their system works. Then he talked about how you need to focus on getting your points any way you can, including mid-range field goals and layups. He emphasized how long perimeter shots get tougher to make late in games as players legs get tired.
The Rockets loss tonight and those insightful comments from I. Thomas triggered the bad feeling I've had from the beginning about the decision to hire Gersson Rosas. I always through of him as that career lieutenant or bureaucrat who isn't an independent, original or creative thinker. I think he came here intending to establish the Houston Rockets North even though he said he wasn't doing that. But in the short time, he's repeatedly, emphatically and annoyingly emphasized their vision of a system. And in the first season of the Rosas regime, the Wolves were third in the League in 3-point attempts. Both of Gersson's to signature trade-deadline deals brought in players known for their three-point shooting but also for their poor defense.
Isiah Thomas is right. And we had better hope that Gersson comes to his senses and realizes that it's hard enough to win in the NBA without limiting yourself to your favorite style or system. To paraphrase Isiah Thomas, it's not how you win, but whether you win that matters. And winning in the NBA is tough, which means you have to use have a multifaceted approach that gives you the best opportunity to win -- threes, mid-range, layups, and of course DEFENSE.
That seems to be Dantoni to a T. His ego is so wrapped up in his coaching, its a bit sad in my opinion.
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thedoper wrote:lipoli390 wrote:OKC tied their series with Houston tonight. And Houston set a new record for missed threes. Isiah Thomas commented on the outcome of the game and I though he nailed it. He said that "Houston continues to want to win their way instead of just winning the basketball game." He added that it's almost as if they're trying to prove a point that their system works. Then he talked about how you need to focus on getting your points any way you can, including mid-range field goals and layups. He emphasized how long perimeter shots get tougher to make late in games as players legs get tired.
The Rockets loss tonight and those insightful comments from I. Thomas triggered the bad feeling I've had from the beginning about the decision to hire Gersson Rosas. I always through of him as that career lieutenant or bureaucrat who isn't an independent, original or creative thinker. I think he came here intending to establish the Houston Rockets North even though he said he wasn't doing that. But in the short time, he's repeatedly, emphatically and annoyingly emphasized their vision of a system. And in the first season of the Rosas regime, the Wolves were third in the League in 3-point attempts. Both of Gersson's to signature trade-deadline deals brought in players known for their three-point shooting but also for their poor defense.
Isiah Thomas is right. And we had better hope that Gersson comes to his senses and realizes that it's hard enough to win in the NBA without limiting yourself to your favorite style or system. To paraphrase Isiah Thomas, it's not how you win, but whether you win that matters. And winning in the NBA is tough, which means you have to use have a multifaceted approach that gives you the best opportunity to win -- threes, mid-range, layups, and of course DEFENSE.
That seems to be Dantoni to a T. His ego is so wrapped up in his coaching, its a bit sad in my opinion.
I didn't watch the game but I also just looked at the box score. Houston shot nearly 40% from 3. That sounds fine to me. No talk about how OKC was smart taking on Dennis Schoder a couple years ago and has been handsomely rewarded especially in these last 2 wins. I actually kinda dislike D'Antoni but he has actually changed his style somewhat to fit with Harden.
Personally I'm not going to take anything too solid from any of this bubble basketball. It's not like a regular season it's basically a warm up and a tournament. If you told me A team like OKC won the championship this year I honestly wouldn't be THAT shocked.