Harrell's comments directed at Luka

[TAFKASP]

And just now one of Don Cheetos magats called Obama a monkey and Cheeto laughed at it. The RNC is off to a great start! Well done magats.

Except that isn't what was said, but don't let that get in the way of a great story!

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1297948239002574848

The person clearly said Spygate.

PATIENCE.

If you really really really hate Trump... simply be more careful picking-and-choosing your spots. One case of something like this that could possibly be proven wrong... ends up trumping dozens of other cases when he legitimately might deserve criticism.

People haven't learned in 4+ years.

You have all the ammunition -- don't simply give it to the other side before you get to use it.

I agree, he gives people more than enough ammo and yet they cannot help themselves and make it up as they go along. People are so addicted to the outrage they go into withdrawals after just a few minutes without.

My mistake. I saw Dopers post then saw the the Dolt45 headline. I was a little jumpy. How could Twitter be wrong like that?

I can see how you'd make such a mistake as we've never had a false post on our little forum here! LOL

[BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]]

And just now one of Don Cheetos magats called Obama a monkey and Cheeto laughed at it. The RNC is off to a great start! Well done magats.

Except that isn't what was said, but don't let that get in the way of a great story!

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1297948239002574848

The person clearly said Spygate.

PATIENCE.

If you really really really hate Trump... simply be more careful picking-and-choosing your spots. One case of something like this that could possibly be proven wrong... ends up trumping dozens of other cases when he legitimately might deserve criticism.

People haven't learned in 4+ years.

You have all the ammunition -- don't simply give it to the other side before you get to use it.

I agree, he gives people more than enough ammo and yet they cannot help themselves and make it up as they go along. People are so addicted to the outrage they go into withdrawals after just a few minutes without.

My mistake. I saw Dopers post then saw the the Dolt45 headline. I was a little jumpy. How could Twitter be wrong like that?

I can see how you'd make such a mistake as we've never had a false post on our little forum here! LOL

Haha. Exactly. Just like my comments in support of Anthony Bennett. But I'm not taking those back. He just needs more time.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Im still failing to see the actual inconsistency that people keep referring to. Everyone on this thread seems to be talking about their annoyance to what they feel would be the NBA's response to a hypothetical situation where a white player said a racial epithet on the court. The closest recent incident was Steven Adams calling Draymond and Klay monkeys and there was no punishment to him.

What are the actual instances that parallel this situation that the NBA or the media has messed up on?

People have brought up china here, but that has nothing to do with US racial issues. But even on that the NBA ended up backing Morey (albeit in a weak way) and losing some real money over his political stance.

It's more of a hypothetical inconsistency since there hasn't been an incident going in the other direction (thankfully) since the NBA elevated BLM as a part of their brand. But based on what we have seen in other aspects of the broader culture, it's not hard to imagine the firestorm that would be created if Doncic used similar language against Harrell (replace "white" with "black"). IDK, may be we'd be wrong about that and ESPN, Silver, and other pundits and press would largely let it go like they did with Harrell.

As for Adams, that was 4 years ago and he had to make multiple public apologies. I think we can agree that the sensitivity to racial matters has changed juuuuuuust a bit in the past few months and I don't recall the NBA sponsoring BLM and anti-racism as prominently back then.

On China, I brought it up because it's a real example of the NBA's hypocrisy on certain matters. It's just hypocritical to actively endorse and encourage social justice initiatives and protests within the U.S. but then treat China with kid gloves. The very freedoms that allows them to protest and criticize the U.S. government isn't allowed in China.

[Coolbreeze44]

It's simply political games. The China situation doesn't get the same treatment for obvious reasons. If it goes against your political agenda, it is taboo to talk about it. And you have the corrupt MSM to help you with that agenda. I mean i think we all get what is going on here. If you don't that's a problem.

[AbeVigodaLive]

It's simply political games. The China situation doesn't get the same treatment for obvious reasons. If it goes against your political agenda, it is taboo to talk about it. And you have the corrupt MSM to help you with that agenda. I mean i think we all get what is going on here. If you don't that's a problem.

That's why I refuse to believe that corrupt MSM about anything... unless I'm told by Donald Trump that something they wrote about is legit.

But that's it.

Other than that, I'm sticking to getting my news from the most trusted sources directly.

[thedoper]

Im still failing to see the actual inconsistency that people keep referring to. Everyone on this thread seems to be talking about their annoyance to what they feel would be the NBA's response to a hypothetical situation where a white player said a racial epithet on the court. The closest recent incident was Steven Adams calling Draymond and Klay monkeys and there was no punishment to him.

What are the actual instances that parallel this situation that the NBA or the media has messed up on?

People have brought up china here, but that has nothing to do with US racial issues. But even on that the NBA ended up backing Morey (albeit in a weak way) and losing some real money over his political stance.

It's more of a hypothetical inconsistency since there hasn't been an incident going in the other direction (thankfully) since the NBA elevated BLM as a part of their brand. But based on what we have seen in other aspects of the broader culture, it's not hard to imagine the firestorm that would be created if Doncic used similar language against Harrell (replace "white" with "black"). IDK, may be we'd be wrong about that and ESPN, Silver, and other pundits and press would largely let it go like they did with Harrell.

As for Adams, that was 4 years ago and he had to make multiple public apologies. I think we can agree that the sensitivity to racial matters has changed juuuuuuust a bit in the past few months and I don't recall the NBA sponsoring BLM and anti-racism as prominently back then.

On China, I brought it up because it's a real example of the NBA's hypocrisy on certain matters. It's just hypocritical to actively endorse and encourage social justice initiatives and protests within the U.S. but then treat China with kid gloves. The very freedoms that allows them to protest and criticize the U.S. government isn't allowed in China.

I personally am not going to get worked up about hypothetical inconsistencies as they aren't real.

China is an important social justice issue. I like many here wish many players would have spoken up in support of the struggles of Hong Kong. From that issue it could be viewed as hypocritical in that the NBA wants to support social justice. But international politics, and particularly the sovereignty of Hong Kong is a completely separate issue from race relations in the US. More specifically, racial insults against whites are not a social justice issue as there is no collective negative impact that whites face socially in US society at present apart from occasional backlash (with no real consequences) for poor behavior which is arguably a good thing. It was simply just a stupid mistake that Harrell made that he rightly apologized for.

[Porckchop]

I dunno, it's a bad look for the league when players have woke statements on the back of their jerseys, but then shit like this happens. You wanna be about it, then you better be about it.

[Coolbreeze44]

It's simply political games. The China situation doesn't get the same treatment for obvious reasons. If it goes against your political agenda, it is taboo to talk about it. And you have the corrupt MSM to help you with that agenda. I mean i think we all get what is going on here. If you don't that's a problem.

That's why I refuse to believe that corrupt MSM about anything... unless I'm told by Donald Trump that something they wrote about is legit.

But that's it.

Other than that, I'm sticking to getting my news from the most trusted sources directly.

Come to Portland Abe. We'll go down to the nightly riot and you can decide for yourself who is reporting the events with any semblance of accuracy.

[mrhockey89]

Cool, you're in Portland? Sorry to hear given the climate there.

doper, like the others said, it's about consistency. Like Q said, if you replace the word "white" with "black" and reverse who is saying it, I think we all know it would have been front page news in the NBA for a while, and would have been called out as super racist, not even using the slang term that you were originally suggesting.

I don't think any of us care too much about the term white boy, but we also agree that the intent is to be condescending, and it's a race-based condescending term. If we've learned anything in 2020, it doesn't have to be the majority that are offended by something, it can be the minority. As others mentioned, the Adams comment was years ago when we were in a different world as it pertains to political correctness on words.

On China the NBA definitely shows themselves to be total hypocrites. From the Hong Kong incident to the NBA China training academies where abuse of young children was taking place, the NBA not only didn't take a firm stance condemning it, but also tried to quiet the reporters reporting about it. They don't want bad press. It's all about the money, as always. It's also much of the reason I haven't watched a minute of playoff basketball this season.

I guess overall my expectation is that the NBA should be either taking a proactive stance as they pretend they are, and make sure they're applying their stance equally across all creeds or take a passive stance and avoid the topic altogether and let the players talk their trash and not dramamaticize every moment.

[thedoper]

Cool, you're in Portland? Sorry to hear given the climate there.

doper, like the others said, it's about consistency. Like Q said, if you replace the word "white" with "black" and reverse who is saying it, I think we all know it would have been front page news in the NBA for a while, and would have been called out as super racist, not even using the slang term that you were originally suggesting.

I don't think any of us care too much about the term white boy, but we also agree that the intent is to be condescending, and it's a race-based condescending term. If we've learned anything in 2020, it doesn't have to be the majority that are offended by something, it can be the minority. As others mentioned, the Adams comment was years ago when we were in a different world as it pertains to political correctness on words.

On China the NBA definitely shows themselves to be total hypocrites. From the Hong Kong incident to the NBA China training academies where abuse of young children was taking place, the NBA not only didn't take a firm stance condemning it, but also tried to quiet the reporters reporting about it. They don't want bad press. It's all about the money, as always. It's also much of the reason I haven't watched a minute of playoff basketball this season.

I guess overall my expectation is that the NBA should be either taking a proactive stance as they pretend they are, and make sure they're applying their stance equally across all creeds or take a passive stance and avoid the topic altogether and let the players talk their trash and not dramamaticize every moment.

I get it. Its outrage about hypothetical consistency.
I'm thankful that most white players in the nba understand that language has context and typically dont make racial slurs. Like I already said, Im not going to get angry about a scenario that could potentially happen to a white player. I think that is a silly, make believe, straw man position. There is no politically correct boogeyman coming to strip white males of their rights.