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Won't the toughest issue for the Lakers be that they really want to shed his contract via trade free up more cap space? If they buy him out there is still the cap hit. To me this might be a time to make a lowball offer for a team on one of their young assets while taking on Deng at the same time. I think the Lakers will try everything in their power to not do a buy out and go for a trade if they are serious about being real players in free agency. I would think that a team willing to take on Deng's salary could get Randle or Nance or even Kuzma if they are more creative and willing to part with real assets of their own.
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With two more years after this at an $18M cap hit, good luck finding any takers! Deng was one of those guys this board wanted as I recall it, one that we should be happy got away!!
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TheSP wrote:With two more years after this at an $18M cap hit, good luck finding any takers! Deng was one of those guys this board wanted as I recall it, one that we should be happy got away!!


Deng and Horford were "my guys" at one point in terms of adding vets to our former group of kiddies. One for two I guess. You never know when someone might fall off a cliff. And may be Deng gets rejuvenated as a bench player on a good team. I can't believe he's actually as bad as he was last year with the Lakers.
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Q12543 wrote:
TheSP wrote:With two more years after this at an $18M cap hit, good luck finding any takers! Deng was one of those guys this board wanted as I recall it, one that we should be happy got away!!


Deng and Horford were "my guys" at one point in terms of adding vets to our former group of kiddies. One for two I guess. You never know when someone might fall off a cliff. And may be Deng gets rejuvenated as a bench player on a good team. I can't believe he's actually as bad as he was last year with the Lakers.


No matter, there is no way he's ever going to be worth $18M! There is no team I'd be happier to see saddled with that contract than the Lakers too! :D
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Q12543 wrote:
TheSP wrote:With two more years after this at an $18M cap hit, good luck finding any takers! Deng was one of those guys this board wanted as I recall it, one that we should be happy got away!!


Deng and Horford were "my guys" at one point in terms of adding vets to our former group of kiddies. One for two I guess. You never know when someone might fall off a cliff. And may be Deng gets rejuvenated as a bench player on a good team. I can't believe he's actually as bad as he was last year with the Lakers.

With the price tag attached to Horford vs his actual value, I'd say you were 0 for 2.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:
TheSP wrote:With two more years after this at an $18M cap hit, good luck finding any takers! Deng was one of those guys this board wanted as I recall it, one that we should be happy got away!!


Deng and Horford were "my guys" at one point in terms of adding vets to our former group of kiddies. One for two I guess. You never know when someone might fall off a cliff. And may be Deng gets rejuvenated as a bench player on a good team. I can't believe he's actually as bad as he was last year with the Lakers.

With the price tag attached to Horford vs his actual value, I'd say you were 0 for 2.


We'll agree to disagree. He's been on an upper half defense every year after his rookie year, including some top 5 defenses. He anchors that team on both ends of the court, even though he isn't a high volume scorer. They were 7-7 last year when he didn't play, 46-22 when he did play. Great player.
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Q12543 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:
TheSP wrote:With two more years after this at an $18M cap hit, good luck finding any takers! Deng was one of those guys this board wanted as I recall it, one that we should be happy got away!!


Deng and Horford were "my guys" at one point in terms of adding vets to our former group of kiddies. One for two I guess. You never know when someone might fall off a cliff. And may be Deng gets rejuvenated as a bench player on a good team. I can't believe he's actually as bad as he was last year with the Lakers.

With the price tag attached to Horford vs his actual value, I'd say you were 0 for 2.


We'll agree to disagree. He's been on an upper half defense every year after his rookie year, including some top 5 defenses. He anchors that team on both ends of the court, even though he isn't a high volume scorer. They were 7-7 last year when he didn't play, 46-22 when he did play. Great player.

We can agree to disagree. Great player - I don't see it. He's 31 years old and at times he looks like an old 31. He's torn both pectoral muscles in his career and he doesn't fill up the score sheet. I just don't see how he's the worth the money it took to sign him.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:
TheSP wrote:With two more years after this at an $18M cap hit, good luck finding any takers! Deng was one of those guys this board wanted as I recall it, one that we should be happy got away!!


Deng and Horford were "my guys" at one point in terms of adding vets to our former group of kiddies. One for two I guess. You never know when someone might fall off a cliff. And may be Deng gets rejuvenated as a bench player on a good team. I can't believe he's actually as bad as he was last year with the Lakers.

With the price tag attached to Horford vs his actual value, I'd say you were 0 for 2.


We'll agree to disagree. He's been on an upper half defense every year after his rookie year, including some top 5 defenses. He anchors that team on both ends of the court, even though he isn't a high volume scorer. They were 7-7 last year when he didn't play, 46-22 when he did play. Great player.

We can agree to disagree. Great player - I don't see it. He's 31 years old and at times he looks like an old 31. He's torn both pectoral muscles in his career and he doesn't fill up the score sheet. I just don't see how he's the worth the money it took to sign him.


Wins are more important than stats. The guy just wins a bunch of games. He helped ATL get to the top spot in the conference and last year he helped Boston get there. It's not just a coincidence that he's been on multiple top teams. He's a solid player and it looks like he does a lot of stuff that doesn't show up on paper that just wins a bunch of games. He's overpaid if you are championship or bust. He's properly paid if you just look at how much winning in general he does for a team.
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khans2k5 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:
TheSP wrote:With two more years after this at an $18M cap hit, good luck finding any takers! Deng was one of those guys this board wanted as I recall it, one that we should be happy got away!!


Deng and Horford were "my guys" at one point in terms of adding vets to our former group of kiddies. One for two I guess. You never know when someone might fall off a cliff. And may be Deng gets rejuvenated as a bench player on a good team. I can't believe he's actually as bad as he was last year with the Lakers.

With the price tag attached to Horford vs his actual value, I'd say you were 0 for 2.


We'll agree to disagree. He's been on an upper half defense every year after his rookie year, including some top 5 defenses. He anchors that team on both ends of the court, even though he isn't a high volume scorer. They were 7-7 last year when he didn't play, 46-22 when he did play. Great player.

We can agree to disagree. Great player - I don't see it. He's 31 years old and at times he looks like an old 31. He's torn both pectoral muscles in his career and he doesn't fill up the score sheet. I just don't see how he's the worth the money it took to sign him.


Wins are more important than stats. The guy just wins a bunch of games. He helped ATL get to the top spot in the conference and last year he helped Boston get there. It's not just a coincidence that he's been on multiple top teams. He's a solid player and it looks like he does a lot of stuff that doesn't show up on paper that just wins a bunch of games. He's overpaid if you are championship or bust. He's properly paid if you just look at how much winning in general he does for a team.

That's my point Khansy, he's a solid player not a great one.
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I'd be all for signing Deng to vet min deal if he gets bought out. He's the type of player that Thibs can get the most out of, even at age 32. The Lakers just weren't a very good fit for Luol.
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