Next Moves for the Wolves

[crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]]

Danes recent pod is a good one pertaining the dlo options.

1 i liked (depending on the extras)was trading culver straight up for dlo. Then dieng into the iggy trade exception which gives gsw a 22 mill trade exception to play with for next year. Plus whatever pick(s)to smooth things over.

And any deal involving wiggs for dlo is complicated.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DaneMooreNBA/status/1205325633603145728

[mjs34]

I see no reason to trade KAT. What we need is to find a PF/center like a Miles Plumlee that will play physical inside. Put Covington back at small forward where he belongs and isn't a mismatch every time on the defensive end.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I see no reason to trade KAT. What we need is to find a PF/center like a Miles Plumlee that will play physical inside. Put Covington back at small forward where he belongs and isn't a mismatch every time on the defensive end.

So, basically end this super weak attempt at being the Golden State Warriors and Houston Rockets?

I completely agree.

[thedoper]

I see no reason to trade KAT. What we need is to find a PF/center like a Miles Plumlee that will play physical inside. Put Covington back at small forward where he belongs and isn't a mismatch every time on the defensive end.

So, basically end this super weak attempt at being the Golden State Warriors and Houston Rockets?

I completely agree.

Any chance we can finally get Julius Randle next to KAT? The knicks have 4 power forwards are are always looking for cap space so they can miss on free agents.

[Wolvesfan21]

I see no reason to trade KAT. What we need is to find a PF/center like a Miles Plumlee that will play physical inside. Put Covington back at small forward where he belongs and isn't a mismatch every time on the defensive end.

So, basically end this super weak attempt at being the Golden State Warriors and Houston Rockets?

I completely agree.

The problem is that we simply don't have the personnel who can shoot. KAT and Covington, maybe Layman. The rest are avg to garbage behind the arc. Though saying that, it's hard to have any players no matter the system who cannot shoot. You can get by with one Andre Roberson, Marcus Smart or Draymond Green, but they better do everything else at a high level. We;ve been trucking out 3 terrible shooters at a time sometimes.

Maybe a DLO, Wiggins KAT trio with productive role fillers could be good enough in a year or two to compete. I'm not entirely sure about either DLO or Wiggins becoming perennial all star types so it's hard for me to say with any sort of confidence that potential trade is the way to go.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I see no reason to trade KAT. What we need is to find a PF/center like a Miles Plumlee that will play physical inside. Put Covington back at small forward where he belongs and isn't a mismatch every time on the defensive end.

So, basically end this super weak attempt at being the Golden State Warriors and Houston Rockets?

I completely agree.

Any chance we can finally get Julius Randle next to KAT? The knicks have 4 power forwards are are always looking for cap space so they can miss on free agents.

Jeff Teague and Jarrett Culver for Julius Randle and Alonzo Trier would be interesting. Can't say for sure right now that I'd do that, but it's close enough that I'd have to consider it.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

I think the idea of building a real contender around KAT is a longshot. The only way to get there would be to strike Giannis-level gold in the draft or to start doing something. Slow and steady does nothing for us at this point. CP3 might not be it, but Jrue Holliday, McCollum or other devalued players need to be looked at if were ever actually going to look like a legit team.

Knee-jerk reaction on my part: BLOW IT UP!

- Abe is right. It's REALLY hard to build around an offensively gifted/defensively weak big man. On offense we've had three different coaches have a hard time getting him enough shots and he doesn't get the same kid-glove treatment on fouls that elite guards and wings get. And defensively, the Center is probably still the most important and influential position on the team. Let's face it, he's still a problem on that end of the floor.

- KAT is going to want out eventually anyway. Let's pre-empt him this summer and put him on the block. We would get a massive return.

- And while we're at it, can we try to get equal value for Wiggins as well? Our two max players simply don't have the defensive chops and mental toughness to lead a winner. Put each of them on teams that already have the right culture and leadership and I'm sure they would do just fine.

- People might say, rebuild again!?! But what difference does it make when we are missing the playoffs by a mile anyway!? I certainly don't have any sentimental attachment to KAT or Wig.

- There is a market inefficiency with bigs that are mobile and can defend (Vonleh in fact does this quite well at a very cheap price...not sure why he is totally out of the rotation). We don't need a great 2-way Center to build a great team.

- We need to put all our $ and draft focus into the guard/wing roles - ball handlers, shooters, disruptive defenders. We can get solid bigs on the cheap.

- Culver, Okogie, Nowell, and KBD isn't a horrible start. There is something to work with there. Add into that the haul we get back for KAT and we may not have to hit rock bottom to start something up again.

- Fire Saunders and let Rosas hire a coach of his choosing. With Wig and KAT gone, there is no more sentimental value in keeping Ryan around.

Even though i agree that we probably wont build a championship team with KAT, Im against blowing this team up. The idea that the only purpose of a professional sports team is to win a championship is ruining sports in my opinion. The primary goal is to compete and entertain. Lets get there first with KAT, establish that we have some professionalism in this franchise, then talk championship strategies.

But you were the one that sparked my revolutionary manifesto! Pfffffffffffffffffffffffft. :)

I actually have a similar sentiment - I think a competitive, entertaining brand of basketball with some playoff success is more than acceptable for this fan base.

But....KAT and Wiggins have proven time and again that they can't win as the lead dogs. Period. I guess they are still young and can still improve, but not a ton much more frankly. So I'm not even sure it's possible to be competitive building around a couple of guys that don't seem up for the task. And I'm generally a massive KAT advocate! And if we added DLO, I think this team only gets softer and flakier.

So onwards I say. BLOW IT UP!

[mjs34]

Any chance we can finally get Julius Randle next to KAT? The knicks have 4 power forwards are are always looking for cap space so they can miss on free agents.

Jeff Teague and Jarrett Culver for Julius Randle and Alonzo Trier would be interesting. Can't say for sure right now that I'd do that, but it's close enough that I'd have to consider it.

I don't think Randle is a fit here. His D is marginal at best. I want a low salary "dirty work type of guy" for the PF position. What happened to Vonleh?

I would start KAT, Vonleh, Roco, Wig, and Culver. Forget about shooting 40 3's, but limit the long 2's (Wiggins). We need to be taking advantage of size, not giving it away.

Somebody needs to take Ryan aside and explain the value of taking techs early on in the game, and not being afraid of getting ejected. Don't use a coaching challenge to negate an "and-1" on Teague. Save them for the cheap fouls on KAT.

[kekgeek]

I would be curious what a complete blowup of the roster look like. (Not saying I would do it.

Kat for Iaasac, bamba, Fournier (17 a year for 2 years) and 4 1st

Wiggins for M. Williams (expiring), monk, Washington and lotto protected 1st.

Cov and gorgui for Jackson (expiring), that French guy they got in the draft and a 1st

[AbeVigodaLive]

I wouldn't deal Towns for prospects.

Those days are looooooooong over.

But maybe we can convince a team that it's still possible to build around a stellar offensive-minded Big with defensive deficiencies. Remember, that's the only reason I'd even consider this trade. How much more evidence do we need that you win in this league with wings. (even moderate success!)

Even Anthony Davis couldn't make the playoffs for chrissakes.