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Hicks123 wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:RoCo is a star on a great team. On a bad team his value is not there because no one is feeding him the ball consistent for open 3's, the other guys on defense are bad so teams just attack those players and he is out of position going against bigger players. He should be a small forward.

Would anyone want Kuzma? We could do him plus salary fillers to match for RoCo.


Regarding Kuzma.....a team can't live with a PF averaging 3 rebounds per game. We need a defensive big to pair with Towns.....and this is certainly not Kuzma's strength.

I do think the Lakers are a prime target for RoCo as he is an absolutely perfect fit to support Lebron and AD. I just don't see any assets the Lakers have to make deal work.


Wolves can't get Kuzma (I don't want him anyways) because to make contracts match KCP needs to be involved and he has a no trade clause
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kekgeek1 wrote:
Hicks123 wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:RoCo is a star on a great team. On a bad team his value is not there because no one is feeding him the ball consistent for open 3's, the other guys on defense are bad so teams just attack those players and he is out of position going against bigger players. He should be a small forward.

Would anyone want Kuzma? We could do him plus salary fillers to match for RoCo.


Regarding Kuzma.....a team can't live with a PF averaging 3 rebounds per game. We need a defensive big to pair with Towns.....and this is certainly not Kuzma's strength.

I do think the Lakers are a prime target for RoCo as he is an absolutely perfect fit to support Lebron and AD. I just don't see any assets the Lakers have to make deal work.


Wolves can't get Kuzma (I don't want him anyways) because to make contracts match KCP needs to be involved and he has a no trade clause


Actually his career avg is 5.6. rebounds per game. 16.6 points. 2 assists. .547 TS% His 3P% is 33.5%, so OK. Kuzma is 24 y/o.

I threw in Cousins (torn ACL) and some other no name dude in the NBA trade machine to get salaries to work. I actually think this could be a good deal for the Wolves. We would be saving 4 million in cap space too.
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After watching dlo, im all for bringing him in.

Hes playing alot more off the ball, so he isnt as ball dominant.

Him, kat, and wiggs complement each other quite well. All 3 can space, create their own shots, can pass (wiggs less so), abd play a style that doesnt get in each others way.

Kat in the post or up top in pnrs.
Dlo hitting from deep and mid.
Wiggs going downhill and putting pressure on the rim.

But we will need strong team defenders at sf and pf/c.

Strong defensive bigs have the best value. Guys like holmes, wcs, noel etc.. are making peanuts because of the way the market is. Unfortunately, we have dieng making more than all 3 of those guys combined and getting half the production.

If we can keep roco out of a potential dlo deal, he gives us the defensive wing we need that spaces the floor on a great contract.
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crazy-canuck wrote:After watching dlo, im all for bringing him in.

Hes playing alot more off the ball, so he isnt as ball dominant.

Him, kat, and wiggs complement each other quite well. All 3 can space, create their own shots, can pass (wiggs less so), abd play a style that doesnt get in each others way.

Kat in the post or up top in pnrs.
Dlo hitting from deep and mid.
Wiggs going downhill and putting pressure on the rim.

But we will need strong team defenders at sf and pf/c.

Strong defensive bigs have the best value. Guys like holmes, wcs, noel etc.. are making peanuts because of the way the market is. Unfortunately, we have dieng making more than all 3 of those guys combined and getting half the production.

If we can keep roco out of a potential dlo deal, he gives us the defensive wing we need that spaces the floor on a great contract.


Welcome to the party. Can I get you a drink or a cold cut sandwich?

In all seriousness, the idea of adding D'Angelo Russell has always made sense to me for more reasons than one. You rattled off some strong points with your post and you didn't even need to mention the strong relationship he has with Minnesota's best player. Kudos to you.
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DLO is a bad contract. The only way I am interested is if there are a couple first rounders connected to that bad contract and even then, I'm not sure I want anything to do with his iso/no defense game. Send him to Iowa to score 50 points a game while his team loses game after game. DLO was all about getting paid and now he's got the max deal he wanted and can smoke all the weed he wants for the rest of his life.
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KG4Ever wrote:DLO is a bad contract. The only way I am interested is if there are a couple first rounders connected to that bad contract and even then, I'm not sure I want anything to do with his iso/no defense game. Send him to Iowa to score 50 points a game while his team loses game after game. DLO was all about getting paid and now he's got the max deal he wanted and can smoke all the weed he wants for the rest of his life.


Everyone is getting paid, but i think teams can will always pay guys that can shoot and get buckets. We just cant pay big bucks to role players. Teague and dieng are paid 35 mill a year. Would you rather have that or dlo + a guy like wcs for less than that?

I worry about defense up the middle with kat and Russell.

I like wiggs defense this year, hes in the passing lanes more and getting into the grill of players and blocking shots. He isnt a plus defender, but i dont think he drags you down.

Kat can defend, but only when he wants to. So, having a big defensive player next to kat is a requirement for bringing in dlo.And another defensive big as back up.

Dlo is horrible, but we are already hiding teague anyways. At least with dlo, he wont dribble out the clock when we need a shot or hesitate to shot an open 3 ball.
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Cov is actually a nice piece to have and I think we need to get a rim protector to pair with him. With the money we save for not pursuing DLO, I'd rather sign a defensive center and use the rest on a point guard that can help us. Keeping Cov plus draft picks that we'd have to give up for DLO, and use the $30 earmarked for DLO towards a defensive minded center and an affordable point guard that fits the team better. I like Monte Morris, but I think there are some interesting young backup point guards worth considering including Dinwiddie, Aaron Holiday, Brunson, Delon Wright
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Was gonna start a new thread... but this one has legs and the topic fits.

Every organization is different. Some seem to be perpetually terrible at decisions. One of those historically has been... well... the Wolves. Another is Sacramento. Now, the Wolves have a new regime that's supposed to have a bit of pedigree working in Houston.

Sacramento still has Vivek Ranadive, Vlade Divac and now Peja Stojakovic. That's not a murderer's row of mind-melting basketball talent there. And they now have an underperforming team with some unhappy players. They've completely revamped their style... going from one of the fastest pace teams to the slowest pace in the league under new coach, Luke Walton.

There's every reason to think the Wolves are gonna stick with this three-point happy system... so would a guy like Buddy Hield fit well into those plans? By all reports, he's a decent guy... but he's also voiced his frustration with the team recently, so is he enough of a malcontent that they want/need to move on from for a reasonable price?
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:Was gonna start a new thread... but this one has legs and the topic fits.

Every organization is different. Some seem to be perpetually terrible at decisions. One of those historically has been... well... the Wolves. Another is Sacramento. Now, the Wolves have a new regime that's supposed to have a bit of pedigree working in Houston.

Sacramento still has Vivek Ranadive, Vlade Divac and now Peja Stojakovic. That's not a murderer's row of mind-melting basketball talent there. And they now have an underperforming team with some unhappy players. They've completely revamped their style... going from one of the fastest pace teams to the slowest pace in the league under new coach, Luke Walton.

There's every reason to think the Wolves are gonna stick with this three-point happy system... so would a guy like Buddy Hield fit well into those plans? By all reports, he's a decent guy... but he's also voiced his frustration with the team recently, so is he enough of a malcontent that they want/need to move on from for a reasonable price?


I would love to add buddy the problem is since he signed his extension this year he can't be traded till the offseason
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kekgeek1 wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:Was gonna start a new thread... but this one has legs and the topic fits.

Every organization is different. Some seem to be perpetually terrible at decisions. One of those historically has been... well... the Wolves. Another is Sacramento. Now, the Wolves have a new regime that's supposed to have a bit of pedigree working in Houston.

Sacramento still has Vivek Ranadive, Vlade Divac and now Peja Stojakovic. That's not a murderer's row of mind-melting basketball talent there. And they now have an underperforming team with some unhappy players. They've completely revamped their style... going from one of the fastest pace teams to the slowest pace in the league under new coach, Luke Walton.

There's every reason to think the Wolves are gonna stick with this three-point happy system... so would a guy like Buddy Hield fit well into those plans? By all reports, he's a decent guy... but he's also voiced his frustration with the team recently, so is he enough of a malcontent that they want/need to move on from for a reasonable price?


I would love to add buddy the problem is since he signed his extension this year he can't be traded till the offseason


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