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WolvesFan21 wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:

I'd feel differently if there were any evidence that Beal has a substantial impact on winning. But I don't see it. I think he's a terrific player and would obviously be an upgrade over Beasley. And although I'd no longer consider Beal a poor defender, he's still not a particularly good one. That means yet another team pillar that doesn't help defensively. I just don't know that Beal would make enough of a difference to justify further mortgaging the team's future.



As noted, I don't think the Wolves have enough to get Beal.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't try.

We can rip Beal for not helping the Wizards win recently. But he's not without a track record of playoff experience. He's started 40 playoff games... averaging 22.7 ppg. In 3 of those seasons, he upped his production in the playoffs from the regular season.

The Wizards lost in the 2nd rd. of the 2017 playoffs to Boston in 7 games. Down 3 - 2... Beal scored 33 points in a 1-point win in Game 6. He followed it up with 38 points in a Game 7. Nobody on the roster has remotely close to that much "big game" experience. Heck, how many guys in Wolves franchise history have had playoff chops like that?

The Wolves have 16 combined playoff starts for the entire team. (11 for Rubio, 5 for KAT.) 68 total games... with Ed Davis leading the way with 33 appearances... most of them in mop-up roles.

Beal would be a HUGE get. Here's the rub... He has a player option in 2022. So, there's a chance he'd opt out at only 29... likely giving the Wolves only next season with him and KAT making a legit playoff run. (I think this season is a lost cause.)



[Note: Check out Beal's teammates last night:

Starters: Isaac Bonga, Raul Neto, Robin Lopez, Jordan Bell.
Reserves: Garrison Matthews, Jerome Robinson, Alex Len, Winston Gill, Cassius Winston.

I'm an NBA guy. I follow more than the Wolves. I've never heard of 4 of those guys... and the rest... well, they suck. Len and Bell were signed 4 days ago. Bell is starting on a 10-day contract.

Oh... Beal scored 47 points. His teammates scored 59 and shot 36%.]



The Wolves have enough they can offer 4 first round unprotected picks, but that would be crazy. So it basically comes down to how much you would give up and like you said potentially lose him in a couple years.

What if Ant becomes All NBA in 3 years and we are left with Beal leaving? It could end up being a terrible trade for us.



That's the NBA for you.

How much do you value All NBA players now... or prospects with possible All NBA potential down the line?
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Any interest brining Thaddeus Young back? He's been ballin for the bulls this season while Carter has been hurt.
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Most people are thinking about who MN could add, but let's be realistic and think about who we should be getting rid of because this team is pretty far away from competing at a high level.

N. Reid plays the same position as our best player and might actually land us something decent or maybe add something to him and get a long term asset or trade chip.

I don't think KAT would forgive Rosas, so unfortunately DLO is probably un-tradeable.

If a team is willing to overpay for Beasley I would entertain trading him.

I'd cash out Rubio and Okogie for cheap if there are takers.

MN is in bad shape IMO Rubio, Okogie, Layman and others are just taking away from developmental time of younger players. I think it's time to deal away players not go shopping for a quick fix that likely wouldn't put MN over the hump anyhow.
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Tactical unit wrote:Most people are thinking about who MN could add, but let's be realistic and think about who we should be getting rid of because this team is pretty far away from competing at a high level.

N. Reid plays the same position as our best player and might actually land us something decent or maybe add something to him and get a long term asset or trade chip.

I don't think KAT would forgive Rosas, so unfortunately DLO is probably un-tradeable.

If a team is willing to overpay for Beasley I would entertain trading him.

I'd cash out Rubio and Okogie for cheap if there are takers.

MN is in bad shape IMO Rubio, Okogie, Layman and others are just taking away from developmental time of younger players. I think it's time to deal away players not go shopping for a quick fix that likely wouldn't put MN over the hump anyhow.


They aren't going to make any moves until they see this team with KAT back. Once they continue sucking with him, THEN I could see moves being made, including the firing of Ryan Saunders.
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Tactical unit wrote:Most people are thinking about who MN could add, but let's be realistic and think about who we should be getting rid of because this team is pretty far away from competing at a high level.

N. Reid plays the same position as our best player and might actually land us something decent or maybe add something to him and get a long term asset or trade chip.

I don't think KAT would forgive Rosas, so unfortunately DLO is probably un-tradeable.

If a team is willing to overpay for Beasley I would entertain trading him.

I'd cash out Rubio and Okogie for cheap if there are takers.

MN is in bad shape IMO Rubio, Okogie, Layman and others are just taking away from developmental time of younger players. I think it's time to deal away players not go shopping for a quick fix that likely wouldn't put MN over the hump anyhow.


Kowtowing to KAT is how the Wolves got in this mess. KAT has already signaled he's leaving, and the DLO trade has robbed the Wolves of vitally needed draft picks. Trading DLO should definitely be on the table, but I'm not sure if there would me much of a market for him. Ironically, Lavine is supposed to have some decent trade value, but I think DLO's selfish immature reputation and his poor defense would scare off most teams plus unlike Lavine, he's pulling a max deal. If we could get out of DLO's contract without giving up a first rounder would be a huge win at this point.
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Q12543 wrote:
Tactical unit wrote:Most people are thinking about who MN could add, but let's be realistic and think about who we should be getting rid of because this team is pretty far away from competing at a high level.

N. Reid plays the same position as our best player and might actually land us something decent or maybe add something to him and get a long term asset or trade chip.

I don't think KAT would forgive Rosas, so unfortunately DLO is probably un-tradeable.

If a team is willing to overpay for Beasley I would entertain trading him.

I'd cash out Rubio and Okogie for cheap if there are takers.

MN is in bad shape IMO Rubio, Okogie, Layman and others are just taking away from developmental time of younger players. I think it's time to deal away players not go shopping for a quick fix that likely wouldn't put MN over the hump anyhow.


They aren't going to make any moves until they see this team with KAT back. Once they continue sucking with him, THEN I could see moves being made, including the firing of Ryan Saunders.


Solid list by TU, but I agree that nothing is going to happen until management sees what this team can do with KAT back...and I agree with that decision. But if they continue flailing and blowing leads with KAT back, I will endorse some significant moves including a coaching change. As much as I like Beasley's shooting and energy, he's probably our best trade chip and plays our deepest position...he could bring back a very good PF who would allow more time for Vando and McD to develop. DLO is going nowhere...the hot potato was accepted by Rosas, and to channel Cool, there's no greater moron to take him off our hands.
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FNG wrote:
Q12543 wrote:
Tactical unit wrote:Most people are thinking about who MN could add, but let's be realistic and think about who we should be getting rid of because this team is pretty far away from competing at a high level.

N. Reid plays the same position as our best player and might actually land us something decent or maybe add something to him and get a long term asset or trade chip.

I don't think KAT would forgive Rosas, so unfortunately DLO is probably un-tradeable.

If a team is willing to overpay for Beasley I would entertain trading him.

I'd cash out Rubio and Okogie for cheap if there are takers.

MN is in bad shape IMO Rubio, Okogie, Layman and others are just taking away from developmental time of younger players. I think it's time to deal away players not go shopping for a quick fix that likely wouldn't put MN over the hump anyhow.


They aren't going to make any moves until they see this team with KAT back. Once they continue sucking with him, THEN I could see moves being made, including the firing of Ryan Saunders.


Solid list by TU, but I agree that nothing is going to happen until management sees what this team can do with KAT back...and I agree with that decision. But if they continue flailing and blowing leads with KAT back, I will endorse some significant moves including a coaching change. As much as I like Beasley's shooting and energy, he's probably our best trade chip and plays our deepest position...he could bring back a very good PF who would allow more time for Vando and McD to develop. DLO is going nowhere...the hot potato was accepted by Rosas, and to channel Cool, there's no greater moron to take him off our hands.

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I'm still clinging to the hope that there's at least one more front office moron out there who will give us something of value in return for DLO. I know there's no greater moron than Rosas because I don't see any team giving us their top 3 protected first-round pick along with their second-round pick. Right now, I'd take a lottery-protected 2022 first round pick. Maybe we can get a 2021 2nd round pick for Rubio.
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lipoli390 wrote:I'm still clinging to the hope that there's at least one more front office moron out there who will give us something of value in return for DLO. I know there's no greater moron than Rosas because I don't see any team giving us their top 3 protected first-round pick along with their second-round pick. Right now, I'd take a lottery-protected 2022 first round pick. Maybe we can get a 2021 2nd round pick for Rubio.


Rosas & KAT won't let DLO get traded they are in this together.....it's family remember LMAO.

DLO yielding a 1st would take a very desperate team that probably suffers injury but still likes there playoff chances if they can just replace there injured PG. If they want to increase his value they should put him in a 6th man instant offense role. Max deal in a 6th man role LMAO, just so lame that A. Wiggins is the better asset yet we gave up so much for DLO :(

Rubio might yield a 2nd if other teams don't look at his contract (17.8 million next year), but trading away the country clubs favorite man bun is probably off limits!!!
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