Free Agents - Who do you target?

[AbeVigodaLive]

Monster - I hope you mean Alec Burc instead of Trey Burke. Trey's numbers have regressed since his rookie season, except his shooting percentage (which was an anomaly this season and hardly credible in the 12mpg he got). Brandon 'freaking' Jennings pushed ahead of him in the Washington rotation.

I'd prefer to Tyus Jones being our 3rd PG any day of the week.

Nope I'm talking Trey. His shooting has improved the last 2 years. What they had him do with the Wizards was just play. He was a combo guard not a PG. That was probably why they got Jennings (plus Jennings used to be a legit starting PG talent) and Jennings was racking up assists for the Wizards during the regular season. Look I thought Burke was vastly overrated on that draft and laughed at how he went on to shoot the ball not much better than Rubio despite being supposedly a scoring PG his first couple seasons. Now the guy has been able to be a more efficient player the last couple years and I am considering him as a possible rotation combo guard who also happens to have a decent chunk of NBA experience as well going into his 5th season and he turns 25 in November. I'm not looking to pay him much but it's a guard league and the guy has some skills to score the ball and create a bit.

Brandon Jennings was a HUGE reason the Wizards aren't still playing. He was atrocious on both ends of the floor.

So for him to get run ahead of Burke... is telling.

[Monster]

Monster - I hope you mean Alec Burc instead of Trey Burke. Trey's numbers have regressed since his rookie season, except his shooting percentage (which was an anomaly this season and hardly credible in the 12mpg he got). Brandon 'freaking' Jennings pushed ahead of him in the Washington rotation.

I'd prefer to Tyus Jones being our 3rd PG any day of the week.

Nope I'm talking Trey. His shooting has improved the last 2 years. What they had him do with the Wizards was just play. He was a combo guard not a PG. That was probably why they got Jennings (plus Jennings used to be a legit starting PG talent) and Jennings was racking up assists for the Wizards during the regular season. Look I thought Burke was vastly overrated on that draft and laughed at how he went on to shoot the ball not much better than Rubio despite being supposedly a scoring PG his first couple seasons. Now the guy has been able to be a more efficient player the last couple years and I am considering him as a possible rotation combo guard who also happens to have a decent chunk of NBA experience as well going into his 5th season and he turns 25 in November. I'm not looking to pay him much but it's a guard league and the guy has some skills to score the ball and create a bit.

Brandon Jennings was a HUGE reason the Wizards aren't still playing. He was atrocious on both ends of the floor.

So for him to get run ahead of Burke... is telling.

So you are saying Brooks played the wrong guy in the playoffs...again? =)

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Monster, Don't we already have a younger - and potentially better - version of Trey Burke on our roster in Tyus Jones? Not sure where you are coming from on that one.

[Monster]

Monster, Don't we already have a younger - and potentially better - version of Trey Burke on our roster in Tyus Jones? Not sure where you are coming from on that one.

Q I haven't seen Burke play much so first off I'll say that maybe he just isn't that good but his stats the last year are trending in a positive direction so I'm intrigued. I'm just trying to find that next youngish player that other teams don't really value that turns into something worthwhile.

The difference to me between Tyus and Burke is that Burke is more of a heat check combo guard that his value is more about being able to score like a Barea, Aaron's brooks maybe even Augustine etc. I can hear people say "we don't need any undersized guard we already have 3 PGs!" Sure but 2 of them are questionable shooters but are also big PGs that you can play against SGs defensively. A JJ Barea type would have been handy at times I just think having another guy that can handle the ball and hit 3's sounds like a good idea.

Back to Tyus. Could he be that type of guy? Sure, I'm probably the biggest fan of Tyus on this entire board but I don't think anyone would feel comfortable going into next season with Tyus as a scorer off the bench. Personally I would probably rather have a Jodie Meeks (if Healthy) or Ellington (if Miami let's them go) but idk what the market will be for those guys. I'm thinking Burke could be had for 3 million or even less probably on a 1 year deal and COULD provide some nice minutes as a bench player. I'm certainly not dying to get him here but he might be one of these young vets that ends up turning into something in his mid 20's even if that means just solid rotation player off the bench for a good team. Maybe he becomes the Randy's Foye type guy with solid value as a combo guard. Anyway it's probably time to move on from talking his much about Burke.

[Monster]

With some talk about Udoh I'll put this here. It talks about Udoh some other Euro guys like him and the center position and bigs in general.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/what-did-we-learn-at-the-2017-euroleague-final-four-5954/

[Monster]

I think the more I look at this offseason the more it looks like a poor FA class for the Wolves. Anyone that's a top level FA like cp3 or Blake is not coming here. Even a guy like Millsap is unlikely to come here. Ibaka is probably locked up and Hayward Lowry etc isn't coming here either. Unless something crazy happens we aren't looking at a top starter coming here. Likely the best we can hope for is a solid starter. I'm usually an optimist but I don't see many options that are realistic. The good news for the Wolves is if teams do have less to spend and the ones that do spend their money on a few big ticket guys that may leave some solid players for the Wolves to get with solid maybe even relative bargain contracts.

That means the Wolves are going to have to find some solid guys and hope they pick the right ones and it would be great if some were younger players signed for more than 2 years so when we are actually a competitor they will be here helping the team. The good teams find those type of guys. There are some younger players out there with some promise and Bazz might even be one of them.

Developing players already on the roster is a big deal as well. A couple players making a solid leap forward would be pretty big for this team. Towns likely will be even better as will Wiggins. I think Rubio could be a young vet that really helps guide this team in the right direction. If Tyus or Dunn take a jump in their play that would be big. I'm probably much more optimistic about what gains we can get from the guys we have on the roster plus adding a draft pick than what we can add in FA. Having the G-league team to help find additional talent is another nice avenue as well.

So my advice is get ready for a somewhat disappointing boring offseason after the draft for the Wolves. About the most exciting thing that could happen is if they go all in on a good RFA or 2 and maybe get one of them. I'm skeptical.

[Mr. Brightside [enjin:16464947]]

Thoughts on Jodie Meeks? Career 38% 3-point shooter and shot over 40% the past two seasons. Spot starter until LaVine is up to full speed and then transitions to a bench role that plays around 22 mpg. The price tag would likely be, at most, 1/2 of Redick's as well.

[Monster]

Thoughts on Jodie Meeks? Career 38% 3-point shooter and shot over 40% the past two seasons. Spot starter until LaVine is up to full speed and then transitions to a bench role that plays around 22 mpg. The price tag would likely be, at most, 1/2 of Redick's as well.

He is a guy I like too at the right price. His lack of ability to stay healthy the last couple of years (foot problems are not good) is concerning but may keep his price down possibly making it worth the risk. The Magic need shooting too they might want to keep him. This team needs volume 3 point shooting and Meeks is healthy can do that.

[Hicks123 [enjin:6700838]]

I agree monster. I don't expect a big FA signing.

I think the Wolves need to be aggressive in trying to work deals from overspent teams like Detroit, Orlando and Portland.

I have to believe that Portland will try to deal one or more of Aminu, Crabbe, Harkless and Turner. I want nothing to do with Turner, but the other 3 are certainly all worth exploring. I wouldn't give up our #7 pick for any of those 3, but would be willing to give up other assets.

[TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]]

Free Agents 25 and under (youngest to oldest) per Spotrac.com:

James Young BOS SG 21 3 UFA Bird 29 7.6 2.3 0.9 0.1 0.3 0.1 $1,749,840
Christian Wood CHA PF 21 2 UFA Non-Bird 13 8.2 2.7 2.2 0.2 0.2 0.5 $944,691
Tyler Ennis LAL PG 22 3 UFA Bird 53 11.1 4.3 0.9 1.6 0.5 0.0 $1,662,320
Troy Williams HOU SF 22 1 RFA Non-Bird 31 18.0 6.0 2.2 0.8 0.9 0.3 $76,725
Otto Porter Jr. WAS SF 23 4 RFA Bird 80 32.6 13.4 6.4 1.5 1.5 0.5 $4,826,355
Alex Len PHX C 23 4 RFA Bird 77 20.2 8.0 6.6 0.6 0.5 1.3 $3,943,345
Nerlens Noel DAL C 23 3 RFA Bird 51 20.5 8.7 5.8 1.0 1.3 1.0 $3,582,433
Alex Poythress PHI SF 23 1 RFA Non-Bird 6 26.0 10.7 4.7 0.8 0.5 0.2 $3,197
Ben McLemore SAC SG 24 4 RFA Bird 61 19.3 8.1 2.1 0.8 0.5 0.1 $3,271,931
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope DET SG 24 4 RFA Bird 76 33.3 13.8 3.3 2.5 1.2 0.2 $2,998,910
Trey Burke WAS PG 24 4 RFA Bird 57 12.3 5.0 0.8 1.8 0.2 0.1 $2,758,040
Shabazz Muhammad MIN SF 24 4 RFA Bird 78 19.4 9.9 2.8 0.4 0.3 0.1 $2,240,575
James McAdoo GSW SF 24 3 RFA Bird 52 8.8 2.8 1.7 0.3 0.3 0.6 $980,431
Cristiano Felicio CHI PF 24 2 RFA Early Bird 66 15.8 4.8 4.7 0.6 0.4 0.3 $699,865
Ron Baker NYK SG 24 1 RFA Non-Bird 52 16.5 4.1 1.9 2.1 0.7 0.1 $543,471
Alan Williams PHX PF 24 2 RFA Early Bird 47 15.0 7.4 6.2 0.5 0.6 0.7 $479,017
Patricio Garino ORL SF 24 1 RFA Non-Bird 5 8.6 1.4 $31,969
Michael Carter-Williams CHI PG 25 4 RFA Bird 45 18.8 6.6 3.4 2.5 0.8 0.5 $2,520,882
Joffrey Lauvergne CHI PF 25 3 RFA Bird 70 14.0 5.4 3.6 1.0 0.4 0.1 $1,736,573
Tony Snell MIL SF 25 4 RFA Bird 80 29.2 8.5 3.1 1.2 0.7 0.2 $1,696,412
Tim Hardaway Jr. ATL SG 25 4 RFA Bird 79 27.3 14.5 2.8 2.3 0.7 0.2 $1,508,381
Andre Roberson OKC SG 25 4 RFA Bird 79 30.1 6.6 5.1 1.0 1.2 1.0 $1,323,828
Mike Muscala ATL PF 25 4 UFA Bird 70 17.7 6.2 3.4 1.4 0.4 0.6 $735,231
Walter Tavares CLE C 25 2 RFA Non-Bird 2 13.5 4.0 5.5 0.5 3.0 $5,145