Wiggins is the absolute worst....

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Could the All-Star game have come at a worse time for the Wolves? It pretty much guarantees Wiggins will be feeling well enough to play in their next game. It would have been nice to get a couple more Wigginsless games in if you ask me. It's almost like having a view of the future!
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Thought this was worth mentioning if you havent read it.

https://zonecoverage.com/2019/featured/assessing-ryan-saunders-is-about-more-than-andrew-wiggins/

The biggest mistake in my opinon is that none of our coaches have used the most important tool available to them. Benching Wiggins!

It is clear that by Wiggins statements in the article that he is going to do what he wants, and as pointed out, has even regressed further regarding long 2's. Maybe sitting him down when the other guys get healthy is the answer.

Wrt the defensive rating since Saunders took over, I think you have to take into account that Roco has been injured and we were already thin at the defensive wing position.
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sjm34 wrote:Thought this was worth mentioning if you havent read it.

https://zonecoverage.com/2019/featured/assessing-ryan-saunders-is-about-more-than-andrew-wiggins/

The biggest mistake in my opinon is that none of our coaches have used the most important tool available to them. Benching Wiggins!

It is clear that by Wiggins statements in the article that he is going to do what he wants, and as pointed out, has even regressed further regarding long 2's. Maybe sitting him down when the other guys get healthy is the answer.

Wrt the defensive rating since Saunders took over, I think you have to take into account that Roco has been injured and we were already thin at the defensive wing position.



Hey Mike D'Antoni... get your own material!

"To change guys after they're getting paid millions to do something that they do and say, 'that's not quite right, we wanna change it.' It's not easy," Mike D'Antoni said of the challenge Saunders faces of shaping not only Wiggins but the entire team.

We always have talked about how young these guys are in the way of "they'll figure it out" but rarely in the "imagine yourself as a 23 year old with incalculable wealth." I repeat -- why would we expect a young guy to willingly change after he made about $200M doing it HIS way?

Imagine that same guy in the world of business. Imagine you were 23 and rich as can be... when one day at work your boss comes up to and tells you to change. Huh? Why?

"I don't think about it too much, to be honest," Wiggins said when asked specifically about the shot selections Saunders is pushing. "I just play my game. Really, if the 3 is open, I'm going to shoot it. The long 2s, I'll shoot it. The layups, I'll shoot it."


For those wondering... Wiggins doesn't "get it." It's the time to wonder if he'll ever "get it" in Minnesota.
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I think if he was a girl, he would be labeled "ditzy". That's kind of how he comes off. Not so much unintelligent, just a ditz.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
sjm34 wrote:Thought this was worth mentioning if you havent read it.

https://zonecoverage.com/2019/featured/assessing-ryan-saunders-is-about-more-than-andrew-wiggins/

The biggest mistake in my opinon is that none of our coaches have used the most important tool available to them. Benching Wiggins!

It is clear that by Wiggins statements in the article that he is going to do what he wants, and as pointed out, has even regressed further regarding long 2's. Maybe sitting him down when the other guys get healthy is the answer.

Wrt the defensive rating since Saunders took over, I think you have to take into account that Roco has been injured and we were already thin at the defensive wing position.



Hey Mike D'Antoni... get your own material!

"To change guys after they're getting paid millions to do something that they do and say, 'that's not quite right, we wanna change it.' It's not easy," Mike D'Antoni said of the challenge Saunders faces of shaping not only Wiggins but the entire team.

We always have talked about how young these guys are in the way of "they'll figure it out" but rarely in the "imagine yourself as a 23 year old with incalculable wealth." I repeat -- why would we expect a young guy to willingly change after he made about $200M doing it HIS way?

Imagine that same guy in the world of business. Imagine you were 23 and rich as can be... when one day at work your boss comes up to and tells you to change. Huh? Why?

"I don't think about it too much, to be honest," Wiggins said when asked specifically about the shot selections Saunders is pushing. "I just play my game. Really, if the 3 is open, I'm going to shoot it. The long 2s, I'll shoot it. The layups, I'll shoot it."


For those wondering... Wiggins doesn't "get it." It's the time to wonder if he'll ever "get it" in Minnesota.


Wiggins gets it, just ask him, he'll tell ya.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:I think if he was a girl, he would be labeled "ditzy". That's kind of how he comes off. Not so much unintelligent, just a ditz.



I see Wiggins in an entirely different way...

I see him as the sorta attractive, but not hot, girl who just made the local pro team's dance team which allows her to think very highly of herself even though nobody really cares that she's a local pro team's dancer. She carries herself as though she's made the big time... meanwhile, her next dance routine is gonna get cut short because the fans prefer to watch the older, uglier woman who stands on chairs while flipping teacups or a bunch of dogs who jump through hoops or even a guy dressed in a furry costume who shoots free t-shirts out of a cannon.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:I think if he was a girl, he would be labeled "ditzy". That's kind of how he comes off. Not so much unintelligent, just a ditz.



I see Wiggins in an entirely different way...

I see him as the sorta attractive, but not hot, girl who just made the local pro team's dance team which allows her to think very highly of herself even though nobody really cares that she's a local pro team's dancer. She carries herself as though she's made the big time... meanwhile, her next dance routine is gonna get cut short because the fans prefer to watch the older, uglier woman who stands on chairs while flipping teacups or a bunch of dogs who jump through hoops or even a guy dressed in a furry costume who shoots free t-shirts out of a cannon.

That's pretty deep Abe. You've thought about this before. One thing for sure, when the routine gets cut short she's not going to care because she's still part of the group, and will get paid for the evening.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:I think if he was a girl, he would be labeled "ditzy". That's kind of how he comes off. Not so much unintelligent, just a ditz.


Ditzy is just a nice way of calling someone a dumbass where I'm from.
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Camden0916 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:I think if he was a girl, he would be labeled "ditzy". That's kind of how he comes off. Not so much unintelligent, just a ditz.


Ditzy is just a nice way of calling someone a dumbass where I'm from.


I think it's fair to say it's not a compliment. Lol I think I get what Cool is trying to say though.

In all seriousness Wiggins at this point when he speaks to the media...doesn't exactly come off sounding like a smart basketball player when he speaks...or maybe all that smart in general. Kinda like Cool was saying he isn't an idiot but he doesn't exactly sound like some sort of savant or someone with interesting things to say etc. He is clearly an introvert and he does seemed to be liked by teammates but he doesn't even really talk like he is gonna be something more than what he is.
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