crazy-canuck wrote:Porter with almost no minutes last game and no injury to be reported yet.
16 minutes and a +7. I think he's alot like tyus in some regards, that even if the boxscores doesnt show it, he does good things on the court to help win games. He'll never be that guy to carry the offense in spurts, but he alsowont do too many things to kill you. And we can use a few more of those types of guys.
Porter and a 1st for Jimmy?
I'd want Troy Brown Jr as well for taking on Porters contract. Ideally:
MIN receive: Otto Porter, Troy Brown Jr, Jason Smith and 2019 1st round pick (lottery protected).
WSH receive: Jimmy Butler and Gorgui Dieng
Not me. I don't think we should complicate this by insisting someone take G.
It's far from over complicating things. We would need to add a contract to make it work. A straight swap doesn't work salary wise.
crazy-canuck wrote:Porter with almost no minutes last game and no injury to be reported yet.
16 minutes and a +7. I think he's alot like tyus in some regards, that even if the boxscores doesnt show it, he does good things on the court to help win games. He'll never be that guy to carry the offense in spurts, but he alsowont do too many things to kill you. And we can use a few more of those types of guys.
Porter and a 1st for Jimmy?
I'd want Troy Brown Jr as well for taking on Porters contract. Ideally:
MIN receive: Otto Porter, Troy Brown Jr, Jason Smith and 2019 1st round pick (lottery protected).
WSH receive: Jimmy Butler and Gorgui Dieng
Not me. I don't think we should complicate this by insisting someone take G.
It's far from over complicating things. We would need to add a contract to make it work. A straight swap doesn't work salary wise.
crazy-canuck wrote:Porter with almost no minutes last game and no injury to be reported yet.
16 minutes and a +7. I think he's alot like tyus in some regards, that even if the boxscores doesnt show it, he does good things on the court to help win games. He'll never be that guy to carry the offense in spurts, but he alsowont do too many things to kill you. And we can use a few more of those types of guys.
Porter and a 1st for Jimmy?
I'd want Troy Brown Jr as well for taking on Porters contract. Ideally:
MIN receive: Otto Porter, Troy Brown Jr, Jason Smith and 2019 1st round pick (lottery protected).
WSH receive: Jimmy Butler and Gorgui Dieng
Not me. I don't think we should complicate this by insisting someone take G.
It's far from over complicating things. We would need to add a contract to make it work. A straight swap doesn't work salary wise.
Doesn't a 1st round pick make it a salary match?
A first has 0 value in terms of cap
Ok. I thought it had a certain range to make trades work.
32 points, 2 steals and a block from Josh Richardson tonight. Do the Heat really want to give up the 25-year old Richardson along with the young talent Adebayo and their 2019 first round pick for Jimmy Butler? At some point, and maybe that point has been reached, Pat Riley will tell Thibodeau to keep Jimmy and shove him up his ass.
Miami lost tonight in spite of Richardson's 32 points. Dragic was out again with a sore foot. Maybe Riley will simply give up on this season and hope for a lottery pick, in which case, he'll have no interest in Butler. The window for a deal with the Heat won't stay open forever.
lipoli390 wrote:32 points, 2 steals and a block from Josh Richardson tonight. Do the Heat really want to give up the 25-year old Richardson along with the young talent Adebayo and their 2019 first round pick for Jimmy Butler? At some point, and maybe that point has been reached, Pat Riley will tell Thibodeau to keep Jimmy and shove him up his ass.
Miami lost tonight in spite of Richardson's 32 points. Dragic was out again with a sore foot. Maybe Riley will simply give up on this season and hope for a lottery pick, in which case, he'll have no interest in Butler. The window for a deal with the Heat won't stay open forever.
Vince Carter closes out that game just like you would expect from a guy less than 3 months away from Turing 42. He scored or assisted the last few buckets for the Hawks and had a key defensive play to pretty much put it on ice.
lipoli390 wrote:32 points, 2 steals and a block from Josh Richardson tonight. Do the Heat really want to give up the 25-year old Richardson along with the young talent Adebayo and their 2019 first round pick for Jimmy Butler? At some point, and maybe that point has been reached, Pat Riley will tell Thibodeau to keep Jimmy and shove him up his ass.
Miami lost tonight in spite of Richardson's 32 points. Dragic was out again with a sore foot. Maybe Riley will simply give up on this season and hope for a lottery pick, in which case, he'll have no interest in Butler. The window for a deal with the Heat won't stay open forever.
Vince Carter closes out that game just like you would expect from a guy less than 3 months away from Turing 42. He scored or assisted the last few buckets for the Hawks and had a key defensive play to pretty much put it on ice.
Lol. He is amazing, isn't he. Well, half amazing - the other half is man. :)
lipoli390 wrote:32 points, 2 steals and a block from Josh Richardson tonight. Do the Heat really want to give up the 25-year old Richardson along with the young talent Adebayo and their 2019 first round pick for Jimmy Butler? At some point, and maybe that point has been reached, Pat Riley will tell Thibodeau to keep Jimmy and shove him up his ass.
Miami lost tonight in spite of Richardson's 32 points. Dragic was out again with a sore foot. Maybe Riley will simply give up on this season and hope for a lottery pick, in which case, he'll have no interest in Butler. The window for a deal with the Heat won't stay open forever.
Miami is losing, si riley could very well decide to tank the season. However, everyone in that division is losing. Riley can steal that division with a single butler trade because everyone else is so bad.
lipoli390 wrote:32 points, 2 steals and a block from Josh Richardson tonight. Do the Heat really want to give up the 25-year old Richardson along with the young talent Adebayo and their 2019 first round pick for Jimmy Butler? At some point, and maybe that point has been reached, Pat Riley will tell Thibodeau to keep Jimmy and shove him up his ass.
Miami lost tonight in spite of Richardson's 32 points. Dragic was out again with a sore foot. Maybe Riley will simply give up on this season and hope for a lottery pick, in which case, he'll have no interest in Butler. The window for a deal with the Heat won't stay open forever.
Miami is losing, si riley could very well decide to tank the season. However, everyone in that division is losing. Riley can steal that division with a single butler trade because everyone else is so bad.
Yep. You have to hope Riley is thinking that way. It looks like Toronto, Boston, the Sixers and Milwaukee will be vying for the top 3 spots in the East with the odd team out ending up 4th. So it's hard to see Miami's path to a top 4 finish, even with Butler, unless Embiid has an extended injury or Milwaukee's early success turns out to be a mirage. The time to strike a deal with Miami may have passed as reality sets in for Pat. I don't see Pat Riley trading for Butler if it would only mean the difference between 8th place and 5th. Instead, I see him tanking for a lottery pick and then building around Richardson, Adebayo and Winslow. I could see him dealing Dragic at the trade deadline to shed salary and get picks.
lipoli390 wrote:32 points, 2 steals and a block from Josh Richardson tonight. Do the Heat really want to give up the 25-year old Richardson along with the young talent Adebayo and their 2019 first round pick for Jimmy Butler? At some point, and maybe that point has been reached, Pat Riley will tell Thibodeau to keep Jimmy and shove him up his ass.
Miami lost tonight in spite of Richardson's 32 points. Dragic was out again with a sore foot. Maybe Riley will simply give up on this season and hope for a lottery pick, in which case, he'll have no interest in Butler. The window for a deal with the Heat won't stay open forever.
The Heat have played eight games to this point and Richardson has shot below 40% in the majority of those games -- FIVE to be exact. And while he's averaging 19.1 points per game, it's taking him almost 17 shots per game to get there. Even with that volume he's not posting above a league average 15.00 Player Efficiency Rating. Surface-level statistical analysis because, well, it's still too early, but I continue to have a hard time buying into the hype. His effiency and overall impact on the game is slipping because he's having to do too much. Just not excited about a solid 3/D player stretching himself past his ability while others make him out to be a rising star. Richardson is not that.
I lean towards the idea that some of you are propping Richardson up to make it feel like he'll be an awesome get in return for Butler should the Wolves go that way. Understandable, but it needs to be stated nonetheless.
Buddy Hield's insane progression continues. He was an elite shooter last year and now he's even better this year. Also rounded out his game to become a complete player. And to think we could have had either him or Jamal Murray and we came away with Kris Dunn.
The single biggest mistake of the Thibodeau era, if you ask me.
