Warriors/Wolves GDT

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kekgeek1 wrote:Towns bad 3 ruined any comeback


Which one?
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kekgeek1 wrote:I hate watching the Warriors play basketball and it is not even because they are beating the wolves. Terrible 3pt shots that go in. They are going to ruin basketball in the coming years


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I say good fight warriors are good. They should some grit. PG is a huge issue, and the bench. Tyus is the only one playing solid in both regards what is sad. I can't believe I am saying this I think it is time to trade either rubio or Dunn. Whoever gets you more I do it.

I would also look into a Bazz for Casspi trade who is unhappy in Sacramento
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Hey guys. I've followed the board since back in the ESPN days. I've suffered through the many years of disappointment. I haven't given up on this team yet. Having said that, thibs is way to bullish on his rotation. Clearly something is not working. He's plugged in Tyus a few times and surprise surprise things started to change. He needs to get minutes moving forward, period. And I'm not just saying that because I went to duke. :)

Thibs needs to be more open to playing around with other combinations as well. This team is way too talented to be this bad record wise.
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I'm starting to see an idea forming on here that playing T Jones more is a good idea becuz he offers something offensively reguardless of his defensive liabilities. It's being talked about like ya'll are reinventing the wheel here.
Some of us have been championing that idea for 5 years and gotten chastised for it.
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PorkChop wrote:I'm starting to see an idea forming on here that playing T Jones more is a good idea becuz he offers something offensively reguardless of his defensive liabilities. It's being talked about like ya'll are reinventing the wheel here.
Some of us have been championing that idea for 5 years and gotten chastised for it.


Just to be clear, my support for Jones isn't to replace Ricky...although when you are 5-11, all options have to be on the table. I would like to see Jones replacing Dunn in the rotation, not Rubio. Ricky is not playing up to my expectations right now, but very few players on the team are...that's how you get to be 5-11. But I still like his playmaking ball-protecting style and see him as a fit with our high-scoring starters. It's hard for me to find fault with a 33-point first quarter against the best team in basketball, or with 7 assists against only 1 TO...especially since the one TO wasn't really a TO since Curry stepped out of bounds 1 second after his steal. If I'm running the team, I recognize that Dunn is a terrific athlete not ready yet for the NBA, and I would play him 35 MPG in the D-League...preferably some at SG although most of his minutes at PG.

I was really disappointed when Thibs played Dunn ahead of Jones last night after Tyus won the game for us the night before. Almost everyone on the board here can see that Tyus helps us much more than Kris, and it's telling that Thibs can't see it. That highlights in spades why many of us didn't want the same guy as PBO and coach. A PBO gets invested in the guys he drafted, and that causes him as coach to make poor decisions.
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Nobody likes double digit losses, but I think we have to label this one better than expected. I wanted to see them play hard and cover the spread, and they did both. And they forced Kerr to play his Big 3 38 minutes. They're just so good, and almost impossible to defend even with Green out.

Some bright spots...KAT's inside game, Zach's aggressiveness and success on offense, Gorgui's all-around game, and Tyus' continued steadiness and improvement. But there were also negatives...Shabazz is a disaster, Belly was unsteady with his handle, Dunn isn't ready and needs some D League time, and 3-point shooting was both too frequent and not accurate enough. But overall, I look favorably at the last two games...maybe a 5-11 start had lowered my expectations too much.
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Kekgeek---I hate watching the Warriors play basketball and it is not even because they are beating the wolves. Terrible 3pt shots that go in. They are going to ruin basketball in the coming years

Interesting. My first thought is I don't buy it. People said Tiger Woods was going to ruin golf, he was too dominant. Of course , we all know the Babe was going to ruin baseball with all those home runs. But then, think of men's tennis. The oversized rackets have reduced the game to a pure power game, one ace after another with very little serve and volley. I find men's tennis unwatchable. It will be interesting to see if the NBA gets reduced to a bunch of long range chucking. Is this the reason the TV ratings are down?
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papalrep wrote:Kekgeek---I hate watching the Warriors play basketball and it is not even because they are beating the wolves. Terrible 3pt shots that go in. They are going to ruin basketball in the coming years

Interesting. My first thought is I don't buy it. People said Tiger Woods was going to ruin golf, he was too dominant. Of course , we all know the Babe was going to ruin baseball with all those home runs. But then, think of men's tennis. The oversized rackets have reduced the game to a pure power game, one ace after another with very little serve and volley. I find men's tennis unwatchable. It will be interesting to see if the NBA gets reduced to a bunch of long range chucking. Is this the reason the TV ratings are down?



I don't understand the hate for the style of ball GSW plays.

Assists per game by team:

1. Golden State - 31.5
2. Houston - 24.7
3. Boston - 24.3
19. Minnesota - 21.5
30. Utah - 17.8

I keep seeing people claim they're chuckers... yet they're shooting 38.6% on threes and 50.6% overall (2nd place is 47.2%). Golden State MIGHT BE an all-time great offensive team. No team, regardless how talented, is posting those kinds of stats by taking more contested jumpers than wide open looks created by sharing the ball.
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kekgeek1 wrote:I say good fight warriors are good. They should some grit. PG is a huge issue, and the bench. Tyus is the only one playing solid in both regards what is sad. I can't believe I am saying this I think it is time to trade either rubio or Dunn. Whoever gets you more I do it.

I would also look into a Bazz for Casspi trade who is unhappy in Sacramento


I agree, and I'd move a package of Rubio and Bazz to the Kings who have shown interest in Rubio over the years. Rubio has expressed interest in moving on with his career, and seeing as his progression has completely stalemated/potentially regressed, then now is the time to move forward.

I was exploring two 3 team trades, as the Kings are looking to move Rudy Gay, but I'd rather not bring him here.

First is Kings/Suns/Timberwolves trade

Kings trade: Gay, Darren Collison, Garrett Temple, WCS
Kings receive: Rubio, Muhammad, Knight, 2020 1st, 2nd

Suns trade: Brandon Knight, PJ Tucker, 2nd
Suns receive: Gay, Hill

Twolves trade: Rubio, Muhammad, Hill, 2020 lottery protected 1st
Twolves receive: Collison, Temple, Tucker, WCS


Second is Kings/Rockets/Twolves trade

Kings trade: Gay, Collison, Temple
Kings Receive: Rubio, Muhammad, KJ Mcdaniels, 2nd

Houston trades: Ariza, McDaniels, 2nd
Houston receives: Gay, Hill

Minnesota trades: Rubio, Muhammad, Jordan Hill
Minnesota receives: Collison, Temple, Ariza
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