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[Porckchop]

Curry didn't really explode in the league though his first couple years in the league. He was slowly taking over from Monta Ellis. Rubio didn't come over for 2 years, and Rubio did burst onto the scene his rookie year in the NBA if you recall. I remember being at Rubio's 1st game in a sold out Target Center against the Western Conference champion full strength OKC Thunder and Rubio being an absolute maestro as he torched the Thunder's defense left and right, only to come up short because of a missed call on a layup at the buzzer where the Thunder got away with a foul at the rim and won by 1. Kobe ended that great rookie season for Ricky.

Just going off memory bank though, didn't Curry come off an injury before he got paid? He's twice the player now he was back then.

I don't see why everyone tries to go out of their way to bash Rubio no this board. He's our best veteran player when he's healthy. His on/off court numbers are very revealing. Is it because he's our one trade asset that holds potentially significant value besides Wiggins or #1? I'd be careful what I wish for.

Will Rubio ever be twice the player he is now? Or is he who he is? Becuz this team needs better shooters from every where in the back court.. I think the playoffs tells us this to be true. What does Maestro even mean really? Put another vet pg on this team and I bet they avg 8 asst per game and prolly score 12-14 pts per game too. If ur "second" best player can't score more than 10 a game your in real trouble.

[mrhockey89]

I don't think the playoffs tells us anything to be true when it comes to point guards. I heard someone say that on TV the other day and I immediately started thinking about examples suggesting otherwise such as Tony Allen. The Cavs won game 2 after their scoring PG went on the IR in game 1. In fact, I'd argue that Ricky is better than half of the PGs that were in the conference finals games. (WCF+ECF).

Maestro is another way of saying conductor...someone who can run the offense the way it's supposed to be run. You might be able to get stats out of another PG, but that doesn't mean you'll get impact. You get impact with Rubio. He does a lot of things that don't show up in the stat sheet, and I can elaborate if you're not able to see it.

When people trash Rubio, it's for 1 thing. Shooting. On the flip side, I can name several things that he does at a premier level. And ultimately, it should always come down to how well is your team with a guy on the court vs how they are without them on the court. So you go ahead and take your 12 ppg 5 ast replacement that costs us team efficiency, and I'll a PG who takes under 10 shots a game while making the players who are paid to score better.

[Porckchop]

I don't think the playoffs tells us anything to be true when it comes to point guards. I heard someone say that on TV the other day and I immediately started thinking about examples suggesting otherwise such as Tony Allen. The Cavs won game 2 after their scoring PG went on the IR in game 1. In fact, I'd argue that Ricky is better than half of the PGs that were in the conference finals games. (WCF+ECF).

Maestro is another way of saying conductor...someone who can run the offense the way it's supposed to be run. You might be able to get stats out of another PG, but that doesn't mean you'll get impact. You get impact with Rubio. He does a lot of things that don't show up in the stat sheet, and I can elaborate if you're not able to see it.

When people trash Rubio, it's for 1 thing. Shooting. On the flip side, I can name several things that he does at a premier level. And ultimately, it should always come down to how well is your team with a guy on the court vs how they are without them on the court. So you go ahead and take your 12 ppg 5 ast replacement that costs us team efficiency, and I'll a PG who takes under 10 shots a game while making the players who are paid to score better.

And ur dismissING the amount of time he misses on the court. He's missed as much time as Pek . Should that just be dismissed? Shooting is not his only weakness. Actually playing is.

[mrhockey89]

Pork, that's the one thing I'll give you on the Rubio conversation. If you think Rubio will be injury prone going forward, I see a very solid point to trade him, but if not, I don't.

[Monster]

Would u, could u, in a bus?

Lol thanks SP

[A Friendly Flatulence [enjin:8907904]]

Give me Lebrun, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. I think we'd be able to squeeze out a championship or two.

[zigzag22 [enjin:6591633]]

You take Lebron over Curry/Thompson every single day and preferable 3 times on the weekend. What he is doing right now is truly ridiculous. He has proven that he can lift mediocre players and single-handedly lead a team to the brink of a title.

[kekgeek]

You take Lebron over Curry/Thompson every single day and preferable 3 times on the weekend. What he is doing right now is truly ridiculous. He has proven that he can lift mediocre players and single-handedly lead a team to the brink of a title.

Lebron is great no doubt, but who says curry couldn't do what lebron is doing I'd he was asked to do as much . Lebron usage rate is off the charts, scewing, his stats sort of how Westbrook kept getting his triple doubles. That is how the cavs have to play to win, but I hate the narrative that lebron is doing it all by himself, the cavs are a well put together basketball team, individually they might not be awesome but put together they are damn good fit. Can somebody explain to me why Westbrook gets some heat this year for shooting to much while lebron gets praised in the finals for very similar styles of play. I take curry and Thompson going forward, and it is close.

[bleedspeed]

Lebron - He is so physically gifted that hardly anyone can match up with him.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Curry didn't really explode in the league though his first couple years in the league. He was slowly taking over from Monta Ellis. Rubio didn't come over for 2 years, and Rubio did burst onto the scene his rookie year in the NBA if you recall. I remember being at Rubio's 1st game in a sold out Target Center against the Western Conference champion full strength OKC Thunder and Rubio being an absolute maestro as he torched the Thunder's defense left and right, only to come up short because of a missed call on a layup at the buzzer where the Thunder got away with a foul at the rim and won by 1. Kobe ended that great rookie season for Ricky.
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Yes. I remember that game distinctly too... for very different reasons.

Westbrook was bashed by most on this forum after that game. Rubio was praised. I was ripped when I wrote something about Westbrook forcing his will on that game and being the difference. For the next week, it was pretty rough to entertain (publicly) the thought that Westbrook was still at that time better than Rubio... if for nothing else, being the force of nature that he is.

Westbrook: 28 points (10 - 21) / 6 reb / 6 ast / 7 TOs
Rubio: 6 points (2 - 3 fg) / 5 reb / 6ast / 0 TOs

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201112260MIN.html

By the way, check out that all-promise team. Wes Johnson. Michael Beasley (27 shots!) and Derrick Williams. Oh, and Rubio, of course. Remember when that team was supposed to be the one to get us over the hump?


[Note: There was a definite buzz in that game with Rubio's arrival. And play. He played well. But so did Westbrook in his own very Westbrookian way... despite what all those posts at the time would have you believe.]