Camden wrote:Ironic that we could be trading our superstar for a player we drafted and sold. For all those that are fine with selling 2nd rounders, this is some shit for you to laugh at. Could have, should have had both of them.
Ouch!!!!!
I wish the NBA had a practice squad like the NFL. Let teams have up to 5 players stashed for practice or in the d-league.
Sign and trade Love for Bosh. Bosh is a perfect fit on this team and Love gives Lebron the number two scoring role that Wade and Bosh could no longer fulfill (they just didn't give the ball to Bosh enough for him to fill that role). Love also stretches the floor better than Bosh and his elite rebounding would be a huge help to that team as they struggled in that category all year. Bosh gives us the rim protector we need next to Pek and he still has some ability to stretch the floor. He's still in his prime at 30 and I think he needs to be a number 1 guy again to be effective. He was in the background too much in Miami and it wasted a lot of his talents. Love was willing to play with Lebron in Cleveland, so there wouldn't be any problems with him signing long-term with him in Miami and it sends Love to the East so we won't have to deal with him. Bosh is an all-star now and he is someone we could build around for another 5 years minimum given his play style. I think it is a win-win for both teams.
Let me stop you right there. Bosh wouldn't sign off on that, and at the end of the day he'd need to do so. If he actually did intend to leave Miami, Houston and Chicago make more sense for him than Minnesota. He could even try to team up with Melo in New York. So many other teams he'd rather sign on with. Pipe dream, and I don't even think I'd want Bosh. Future still capped since he's 30.
Khans, you've made a lot of sense lately, but this Bosh take is questionable to say the least. Bosh is at best a #3 on a contending team, as he was during the Heat's two titles.
Hockey, we get Thompson for Love and then what? We still don't make the playoffs, and we still don't have any assets to improve after the trade. No matter what we are going to bottom out before things get better. Getting multiple high picks is a must for us to have a chance at a complete transformation. I'd get on the phone with the Celtics and take their two number ones they just made, and try to get a couple more.
khans2k5 wrote:Sign and trade Love for Bosh. Bosh is a perfect fit on this team and Love gives Lebron the number two scoring role that Wade and Bosh could no longer fulfill (they just didn't give the ball to Bosh enough for him to fill that role). Love also stretches the floor better than Bosh and his elite rebounding would be a huge help to that team as they struggled in that category all year. Bosh gives us the rim protector we need next to Pek and he still has some ability to stretch the floor. He's still in his prime at 30 and I think he needs to be a number 1 guy again to be effective. He was in the background too much in Miami and it wasted a lot of his talents. Love was willing to play with Lebron in Cleveland, so there wouldn't be any problems with him signing long-term with him in Miami and it sends Love to the East so we won't have to deal with him. Bosh is an all-star now and he is someone we could build around for another 5 years minimum given his play style. I think it is a win-win for both teams.
First thing first, bosh has to agree to come play for us to make this even possible and I dont think bosh will want to play for us. I dont want bosh either.
Bosh is a good fit next to pek and rubio but I think the days of bosh as a go to scorer is done. He isnt even good enough as a secondary scorer now I believe. 4 years of his prime was spent as the third wheel and deferring to others. He is now strictly a spot up shooter and defender, a role layer. I dont think you can get back to being a go to scorer after you spend your prime years shooting open jumpers. Bosh at max or near max money is not the type of return i want from love It dont help us now or in the future. No thanks.
When comparing a package revolved around Parsons and a package revolved around Klay, I wouldn't take price into consideration. This whole max deal business is undoubtedly overblown. Chances are they will be making very similar salary. Trading Parsons will probably a last resort for Houston but the good news is Love might be the only piece they are willing to realistically make a deal with. The big question is if Parsons would want to sign here. He actually has a choice unlike Klay.
We aren't a contender. Get over it. We never will be so long as we are paying millions of dollars to guys like Pek, Martin, Brewer, Bud, etc. which means we don't have a shot at being a contender for 3-4 years when all their deals would be off the books. Unless you are willing to completely blow it up, we aren't any more of a contender with a Thompson than a Bosh except Bosh is already an all-star who has carried a team to the playoffs before. Bosh carried a garbage filled Toronto team to the playoffs which our budding star can't seem to do here in MN with solid contributing pieces. That's what a two way player like Bosh can get you. He already has two rings and Chicago and Houston can get close to max deals, but they aren't quite max level combined with the fact that they both want Melo over Bosh. You mention Bosh is already 30, so why is he going to take yet another pay cut when it wouldn't even be for the best team in the league so he has no better shot at winning a title?
I think his Miami numbers got lower and lower because they stopped featuring him in the offense and just played Lebron ball. He shot his third best FG% and 2nd best 3pt% of his career and yet his scoring was his second lowest of his career because they wouldn't feature him in the offense at all. That obviously changes in MN and I think he is a guy you can feature offensively especially in running the PnR with Ricky with Pek handling the heavy lifting down low. How is a broken D Rose and Noah better than making more money for a 2 time champion? How is having to go through the Spurs just to get to the finals better than making more money? His odds at a title don't go up if he goes anywhere outside of Miami or SA, so why is he going to take yet another pay cut in the prime of his career when he has less of a shot at winning the title now than he did when he took a pay cut 4 years ago? Sure MN isn't top of his list probably, but we could give him a max deal to be a featured player again which might be valuable to a guy who already has 2 titles and is 30 years old. You don't know what he is thinking, so it is frustrating to hear people say he's not going to do it when you have no idea.
Phenom's_Revenge wrote:When comparing a package revolved around Parsons and a package revolved around Klay, I wouldn't take price into consideration. This whole max deal business is undoubtedly overblown. Chances are they will be making very similar salary. Trading Parsons will probably a last resort for Houston but the good news is Love might be the only piece they are willing to realistically make a deal with. The big question is if Parsons would want to sign here. He actually has a choice unlike Klay.
As HOU declined fourth year option on Parsons contract he should be now a RFA, still we would have to match the best offer to keep him i guess
khans, If its bosh of 4 years ago, then yes. The thing that you are overlooking is bosh has spend the last 4 years of his prime age as a 3rd wheel shooting open jumpers and defending. He said in an interview that he doesnt post up anymore because his not that good at it and because of fatigue as he spends most of his energy on defense. Thats excellent for a 3rd whel role player type.
I dont think you can get back to being a go to guy or a prime scorer after you altered your game in your prime years to strictly shooting open jumpers and defending. A jump shooting pick and pop bosh with good defense but poor rebounding isnt really a max type player for a rebuilding team. He makes sense for houston or miami as he could be that 3rd piece to push them to a championship run. But on a team like us, he dont make much sense.
