kekgeek1 wrote:lipoli390 wrote:monsterpile wrote:khans2k5 wrote:Isaac would be a great fit, but you can't trade the value of that high first round pick for a guy who's coming up on his second deal. If you could get it done for the later pick and anyone not named Towns or Russell it's worth it, but I don't see Orlando doing that. Isaac seems to be tailor made defensively for this new modern NBA.
IF Isaac could stay healthy I'd trade the pick for him even if we had to pay him soon. It's possible he is pretty special defensively. Like you said the I don't think the magic are gonna be interested in moving him everything I had head a few months ago they were really high in him. They would probably ask if we were interested in Aaron Gordon instead. Lol
Can Issac stay healthy? He's had too much trouble staying healthy for me to trade our lottery pick to get him. Of course it depends on where the Wolves pick and who's available when they're on the clock.
The Wolves core currently consists of KAT, Russell and Beasley. Only one of those three was drafted by the Wolves. At some point this franchise has to hit on another pick or two if they're going to be a a contender.
For all we know, they might have hit pay dirt in last year's draft with Culver. He showed flashes of elite play last season. The Wolves will have a top 6 pick, the 16th pick and the 33rd pick in this year's draft. Rosas isn't going to fleece another team in a trade that brings in a young all star. He and his front office team need to step up this draft and land a future all star. They only need one of their 3 picks to pan out since they already have KAT and Russell.
The Warriors drafted Curry at #7, Thompson at #11 and Green at #35. All three ended up better NBA players than they were projected to be coming out of college. So people can call this year's draft a weak one. It doesn't matter. There will be several all star caliber players drafted this year. Rosas needs to draft one of them.
Wolves are in a weird spot because in general I am with you that you have to keep drafting because to win a title we are going to need another stud and obviously the best way to get a stud for the Wolves is through the draft. I am just worried that this draft is full of good solid role players at best and not top tier talent. (I do think Edwards could be a stud even though I have concerns about his game). Im just saying the wolves have 2 max players currently where one is an All NBA player and one that has made an all star game. I just think it is time to start winning and putting proven players around them (hopefully young).
Im all for trying to add Isaac if that was possible (I know Im in the minority but I would trade for Aaron Gordon also). We need to start making the playoffs or Kat will want out. Also after this draft the Wolves can't trade a 1st round pick until 2024 so how valuable is a 2024 1st round pick to teams to add legit NBA talent.
Once again I understand that we disagree on philosophy here, I just don't think there is a rookie in this draft that helps us start winning right away and I think we need to start winning.
You bring up the warriors what is fair but the defending NBA champs had one guy who was drafted in their starting 5 who was drafted by the Raptors. And they used a 8 man rotation in the playoffs and 6 of the 8 weren't drafted by the Raptors (FVF was undrafted but found by the Raptors). Just many ways to win a title
*This is the 1st year since 2013 (Bennett, Oldipo, Porter, Giannis, etc..) I would of traded our picks because on paper the prospects don't seem to have all star potential.
You make some good points, kek. The problem is that we already have two max players and we've already traded away our 1st and 2nd round picks next season. The good news is that our two core guys are both young, with DLO locked in for 3 more seasons and KAT locked up for 4. So we still have some time to ramp up. But we don't have the luxury of taking on more big contracts and losing more draft picks that add to the team's talent while promoting sustainability on team-friendly rookie deals.
We had the 3rd worst record last season and it's hard to know how good this team can be with our new guys acquired before the trade deadline. In my view, we need to see how good this team is with our two core guys (and Beasley if we keep him) before making any major moves. That doesn't mean we shouldn't trade Culver or even two of our three picks this year. I'd at least keep one of those picks, but I'd prefer to keep at least two, especially the top pick, and see how well the team does as currently constituted. I honestly believe this team (as is) with KAT, DLO, Beasley, Okogie, Culver, Johnson, Reid, JMac, Layman as the main rotation players is good enough to compete for a playoff spot next season if healthy. I think there are players in this draft who can help right away as 3-point shooters and/or defenders. I believe that Okongwu, who fits a critical defensive need for the Wolves, can help right away and will be better in his 2nd season than anyone we're realistically able to trade for this off-season. There are no obvious allstars in this draft, but there will be allstars from this draft.
If we do trade two of our current picks along with Culver, I can see the argument for going after Isaac. But his inability to stay healthy and still raw game would cause me to avoid that deal if it were offered. Myles Turner is another story. He's a proven borderline allstar who would fill a team need. But I'm not sure how much I'd give up for him. I'm tired of teams fleecing the Wolves and I don't see a realistic deal for Turner that I'd like. I just don't see a realistic deal out there that would be worth further depleting the Wolves already depleted draft coffers.
So step up, Rosas! Show that you and the front office team you've assembled can evaluate draft talent on par with the Spurs, Thunder, Jazz and Warriors. McHale and Flip nabbed KG at #5 when no other teams had him rated that high. And all they had to go on was his high school record and an in-person workout. Can Rosas at least be as good evaluating draft talent as Kevin McHale? Is that too much to ask? :)
