Rubio camp pushing for trade?

[Coolbreeze44]

There's a lot of buzz going around about Winslow and the Knicks so while it makes sense for our mock drafts, let's pump the brakes on Mudiay to the Knicks.

Hypothetical trades for the board to discuss. I probably wouldn't do them, and the Wolves definitely won't do them, but anyways...

SAC: Rubio and the rights to Bjelica
MIN: No. 6 overall and a future lottery-protected 1st

(could be a number of teams): No. 31 and No. 36 overall
MIN: the rights to Tyus Jones

Minnesota would still need to sign or trade for a veteran point guard as a place-holder, and for the sake of having a name here, I'll say it's Calderon. Also, they pick up a future first to make up for the abysmal Payne trade Flip made earlier this year.

At No. 1 and No. 6, the Wolves select Okafor and Cauley-Stein, respectively.

PG: Calderon / Jones
SG: Martin / LaVine
SF: Wiggins / Muhammad
PF: Cauley-Stein / Garnett
C: Okafor / Dieng

The premise of this is adding Okafor's offense and Cauley-Stein's defense to the frontcourt while maybe getting the future at point guard in Jones. Ideally, Jones, LaVine and Wiggins gives you enough shooting surrounding the two bigs so that it isn't a problem. Cauley-Stein provides the rim protection and mobility needed to be a difference maker on defense.

I just spent way too much time typing this out, but it was fun to think about for a second.

You're starting backcourt for next year would be the worst in the league. Other than that, you make some good points.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Oof. Calderon/Martin is pretty rough on defense. You could probably hide one of them on a nightly basis, but the other is going to have a tall task. Could create an issue, you're right about that.

[mrhockey89]

There's a lot of buzz going around about Winslow and the Knicks so while it makes sense for our mock drafts, let's pump the brakes on Mudiay to the Knicks.

Hypothetical trades for the board to discuss. I probably wouldn't do them, and the Wolves definitely won't do them, but anyways...

SAC: Rubio and the rights to Bjelica
MIN: No. 6 overall and a future lottery-protected 1st

(could be a number of teams): No. 31 and No. 36 overall
MIN: the rights to Tyus Jones

Minnesota would still need to sign or trade for a veteran point guard as a place-holder, and for the sake of having a name here, I'll say it's Calderon. Also, they pick up a future first to make up for the abysmal Payne trade Flip made earlier this year.

At No. 1 and No. 6, the Wolves select Okafor and Cauley-Stein, respectively.

PG: Calderon / Jones
SG: Martin / LaVine
SF: Wiggins / Muhammad
PF: Cauley-Stein / Garnett
C: Okafor / Dieng

The premise of this is adding Okafor's offense and Cauley-Stein's defense to the frontcourt while maybe getting the future at point guard in Jones. Ideally, Jones, LaVine and Wiggins gives you enough shooting surrounding the two bigs so that it isn't a problem. Cauley-Stein provides the rim protection and mobility needed to be a difference maker on defense.

I just spent way too much time typing this out, but it was fun to think about for a second.

This might be fine if we completely ignored the idea of floor spacing on offense. We'd have 2 bigs who can't score outside of 2 feet. I actually like both Okafor and WCS, but I think Towns is definitely the better fit if you're looking to space the floor in this scenario next to WCS. With that said, I'm still grossed out by the idea of trading Rubio for #6. If we're getting a crack at Russell I'd be well considering it, but I don't see it at #6.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I ignored floor spacing? Hmmm... I don't believe I did.

[mrhockey89]

Rubio has not shown me much since he came to town. I appreciate him as a player, but he is a liability in numerous ways, offensive shooting, injury etc etc. In the right system, he could be an consistant All-star, and the only team I can see that is with the Knicks. Only if Carmelo is around.

If the Knicks come knocking....Trade #4 (Russell) plus Calderon for Rubio and #31? Hoping 76ers love Mudaiy at #3.

The Knicks had the #2 odds in the lottery for a reason. I think you're projecting him to become an All-Star with the Knicks because of MSG and the bright lights, not because they'd truly showcase his skills the best.

And I think he's a poor fit with Carmelo since they both excel while dominating the ball.

If Russell was available at #4 and that was the offer I'd mull it over though.

[mrhockey89]

I ignored floor spacing? Hmmm... I don't believe I did.

I didn't read your entire post, I'll admit.

I still think that's far too packed in on offense for Okafor to be effective in the post.

[Tactical unit]

There's a lot of buzz going around about Winslow and the Knicks so while it makes sense for our mock drafts, let's pump the brakes on Mudiay to the Knicks.

Hypothetical trades for the board to discuss. I probably wouldn't do them, and the Wolves definitely won't do them, but anyways...

SAC: Rubio and the rights to Bjelica
MIN: No. 6 overall and a future lottery-protected 1st

(could be a number of teams): No. 31 and No. 36 overall
MIN: the rights to Tyus Jones

Minnesota would still need to sign or trade for a veteran point guard as a place-holder, and for the sake of having a name here, I'll say it's Calderon. Also, they pick up a future first to make up for the abysmal Payne trade Flip made earlier this year.

At No. 1 and No. 6, the Wolves select Okafor and Cauley-Stein, respectively.

PG: Calderon / Jones
SG: Martin / LaVine
SF: Wiggins / Muhammad
PF: Cauley-Stein / Garnett
C: Okafor / Dieng

The premise of this is adding Okafor's offense and Cauley-Stein's defense to the frontcourt while maybe getting the future at point guard in Jones. Ideally, Jones, LaVine and Wiggins gives you enough shooting surrounding the two bigs so that it isn't a problem. Cauley-Stein provides the rim protection and mobility needed to be a difference maker on defense.

I just spent way too much time typing this out, but it was fun to think about for a second.

Interesting scenario you lay out, with that roster I'd prefer a lineup of:
PG: Lavine
SG: Wiggins
SF: Muhammad
PF: KG
C: Okafor

I don't see SAC doing the trade you suggest, nor do I see MN moving Rubio as they have some weird obsession with him.

What I like about Rubio: tends to bring out the best in others.
What I dislike about Rubio: He can't stay healthy, he's limited on offense.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Well, if the Wolves did draft Cauley-Stein at No. 6, you can bet they'd start him.

I also don't see the Wolves trading Rubio, but perhaps in a couple years if we haven't grown in the point guard position.

[TheGrey08]

I'm actually pissed that Rubio was asking for a trade too. In fact that really angers me.

It's all rumor

It's Ricky's representation that wants him out. They always have. Ricky is all sota.

Exactly to both you of. Most of the shit we here from the media is BS. If they can't find a story they make one up where there isn't one.

[Lipoli390]

I'm actually pissed that Rubio was asking for a trade too. In fact that really angers me.

I don't believe the report. Doogie is notoriously unreliable. He was reporting that the Wolves were going to take Payne at #13 last year up to a few minutes before the draft. There are countless other examples. Ricky likes it here and really wanted to stay. Note that he did not hold out for the 5 year deal and has never complained about the organization. So I would completely dismiss this report as another Doogieism.