Wolves vs. Warriors GDT

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TeamRicky wrote:GS is not the same team without Bogut.



Iguodala. Brandon Rush is quite the step down in many areas.

Iguodala is simply a glue guy. He does a lot of little things well on both sides of the court.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
TeamRicky wrote:GS is not the same team without Bogut.



Iguodala. Brandon Rush is quite the step down in many areas.

Iguodala is simply a glue guy. He does a lot of little things well on both sides of the court.


Iguodala further highlights how you need to be aggressive in free agency even with young talent if you are serious about winning.
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Fun game.

- As noted, the Warriors miss Iguodala and the two bigs. But that's still a legit team and the Wolves were right there.

- Per usual, Sam is getting killed here. But only one mention of the unique switching strategy the Wolves tried? The guy is too set in his ways... but kudos for trying a newer tactic and taking a chance. It worked for the most part. I don't want Mitchell to be the coach next year either. But we can be objective about him...

- My two biggest NBA crushes were on display. I didn't expect Rubio to outplay Curry. But he did...

- The bench has been mentioned. It will lose several more games this season.

- The starters can score. They're fun. Yes.
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thedoper wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
TeamRicky wrote:GS is not the same team without Bogut.



Iguodala. Brandon Rush is quite the step down in many areas.

Iguodala is simply a glue guy. He does a lot of little things well on both sides of the court.


Iguodala further highlights how you need to be aggressive in free agency even with young talent if you are serious about winning.



Well, to be fair, the Warriors were quite a bit further in their development when they went after Iguodala. They knew more about what they had. For example, Iguodala went from a starter to a bench guy because GSW had some legit horses.

I think the Wolves are still figuring it out quite a bit. That's not to say FA isn't the way to go... just noting that GSW struck the right guy at the right time.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
thedoper wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
TeamRicky wrote:GS is not the same team without Bogut.



Iguodala. Brandon Rush is quite the step down in many areas.

Iguodala is simply a glue guy. He does a lot of little things well on both sides of the court.


Iguodala further highlights how you need to be aggressive in free agency even with young talent if you are serious about winning.



Well, to be fair, the Warriors were quite a bit further in their development when they went after Iguodala. They knew more about what they had. For example, Iguodala went from a starter to a bench guy because GSW had some legit horses.

I think the Wolves are still figuring it out quite a bit. That's not to say FA isn't the way to go... just noting that GSW struck the right guy at the right time.


I could be wrong, but I thought the real reason for moving Iggy to the bench was because Barnes offensive production was seriously slipping when he was asked to be the sixth man. For the betterment of the team, Barnes was reinserted into the starting lineup in a role he has thrived in as a 3/D wing who can play small ball PF and Iggy was a legitimate sixth man for the W's who also gave that unit another ball-handler; something Barnes was not comfortable nor capable of doing.
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Camden wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
thedoper wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
TeamRicky wrote:GS is not the same team without Bogut.



Iguodala. Brandon Rush is quite the step down in many areas.

Iguodala is simply a glue guy. He does a lot of little things well on both sides of the court.


Iguodala further highlights how you need to be aggressive in free agency even with young talent if you are serious about winning.



Well, to be fair, the Warriors were quite a bit further in their development when they went after Iguodala. They knew more about what they had. For example, Iguodala went from a starter to a bench guy because GSW had some legit horses.

I think the Wolves are still figuring it out quite a bit. That's not to say FA isn't the way to go... just noting that GSW struck the right guy at the right time.


I could be wrong, but I thought the real reason for moving Iggy to the bench was because Barnes offensive production was seriously slipping when he was asked to be the sixth man. For the betterment of the team, Barnes was reinserted into the starting lineup in a role he has thrived in as a 3/D wing who can play small ball PF and Iggy was a legitimate sixth man for the W's who also gave that unit another ball-handler; something Barnes was not comfortable nor capable of doing.



Oh, I'm sure it was more than they thought Barnes was better than Iguodala. The point is the team was at a point where a prized guy was willing to take a lesser role (technically) for the good of the team. That just doesn't happen on teams that haven't won 30 games very often. (at all?)
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I finished watching this game
AbeVigodaLive wrote:Fun game.

- As noted, the Warriors miss Iguodala and the two bigs. But that's still a legit team and the Wolves were right there.

- Per usual, Sam is getting killed here. But only one mention of the unique switching strategy the Wolves tried? The guy is too set in his ways... but kudos for trying a newer tactic and taking a chance. It worked for the most part. I don't want Mitchell to be the coach next year either. But we can be objective about him...

- My two biggest NBA crushes were on display. I didn't expect Rubio to outplay Curry. But he did...

- The bench has been mentioned. It will lose several more games this season.

- The starters can score. They're fun. Yes.


Good breakdown Abe

I thought it was interesting Sam went with a much shorter bench in this game. I don't know if Smith would have played in this game if Dieng hadn't picked up those fouls. Also Smith was the guy he called on. Interesting.

One thing that hit me watching this game is what if this team is actually a couple legit rotation players from making a big jump? Why not bring Prince back if he is interested? He can defend and pass the ball for 15 mins a game if needed. What a luxury he would be for cheap. I could see him wanting to stay with Kanter if Arnie sticks around which I really really hope he does.
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monsterpile wrote:Good breakdown Abe

I thought it was interesting Sam went with a much shorter bench in this game. I don't know if Smith would have played in this game if Dieng hadn't picked up those fouls. Also Smith was the guy he called on. Interesting.

One thing that hit me watching this game is what if this team is actually a couple legit rotation players from making a big jump? Why not bring Prince back if he is interested? He can defend and pass the ball for 15 mins a game if needed. What a luxury he would be for cheap. I could see him wanting to stay with Kanter if Arnie sticks around which I really really hope he does.


Interesting topic. Prince was probably the least objectionable out of the "Over the hill gang" they had this year. But personally, I'd rather move on. I just want someone that's not a minute restriction due to age for cripes sake. I'm tired of guys "needing a rest". There's a place for guys like that....a friggin retirement home! :-)
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Carlos Danger wrote:
monsterpile wrote:Good breakdown Abe

I thought it was interesting Sam went with a much shorter bench in this game. I don't know if Smith would have played in this game if Dieng hadn't picked up those fouls. Also Smith was the guy he called on. Interesting.

One thing that hit me watching this game is what if this team is actually a couple legit rotation players from making a big jump? Why not bring Prince back if he is interested? He can defend and pass the ball for 15 mins a game if needed. What a luxury he would be for cheap. I could see him wanting to stay with Kanter if Arnie sticks around which I really really hope he does.


Interesting topic. Prince was probably the least objectionable out of the "Over the hill gang" they had this year. But personally, I'd rather move on. I just want someone that's not a minute restriction due to age for cripes sake. I'm tired of guys "needing a rest". There's a place for guys like that....a friggin retirement home! :-)


Well if you pick up some decent rotation player like say Dante he would be on a minutes restriction of sorts too because if you play him more than 15-25 mpg you are gonna suck. lol We are learning first hand the last few games how bad the Wolves bench is. It just needs some guys that can come in and play. Prince can do that at least defend and not do something stupid for a few minutes a game and if he doesn't play here and there that's probably a good thing for his body. HE didn't ask out and the Wolves obviously value him because they kept him and play him so maybe it happens. I am not really making a strong case for it either way and ultimately I think its more up to Prince (depending on who is running the Wolves) than anything else. Just something to think about I guess.
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Just an fyi, in the report the nba does for missed calls in last 2 minutes, there were three missed calls. All of them in favor of the warriors. I hate refs giving better teams the benefit of calls as well. Call a fair damn game.
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