Isaiah Thomas

[Papalrep]

We arent getting Thomas for AB or AB and Brewer together. They can get Greg Monroe for him, why settle for our crap? Besides, Thomas wants out of there because he thinks he should start. He would never be happy backing up Rubio, a player he no doubt thinks he's better than.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

It's not the right move in my opinion. We need to be looking to upgrade our starting 5, not locking in a backup PG who wants to start. He's a good player but I wouldn't get rid of any of our young guys just to get a good backup PG. We still need to give all our young guys the proper time to develop so unless we get a good starter in return I wouldn't trade any of the young guys. If you can get him for veterans I would do it but if they take AB and then Thad leaves, you just created a massive hole at the 4 just to bring in a guy who would be our backup PG. We might draft a PF at the top of the draft next year, but there is no way that guy is going to be ready to be a starter from day 1 and Bennett would at least give us a 20ft jumpshot, rebounding and pretty good PnR defense and that is not counting how he might develop with another summer under his belt. Keeping AB at the very least will keep us from having to reach for a 4 if we don't have one on the roster come draft time and it will allow us to take BPA.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

If we could move Bennett for Thomas, that'd be a steal. I highly doubt we could even get them to do that deal. Value-wise it's super lopsided in our favor.

[kekgeek]

If we could move Bennett for Thomas, that'd be a steal. I highly doubt we could even get them to do that deal. Value-wise it's super lopsided in our favor.

So is curry for bud, but that's why it would never happen

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

If we could move Bennett for Thomas, that'd be a steal. I highly doubt we could even get them to do that deal. Value-wise it's super lopsided in our favor.

So is curry for bud, but that's why it would never happen

Was aiming my post at khans, who said he wouldn't make a trade for Thomas with any of our young guys, including Bennett.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

If we could move Bennett for Thomas, that'd be a steal. I highly doubt we could even get them to do that deal. Value-wise it's super lopsided in our favor.

So is curry for bud, but that's why it would never happen

Was aiming my post at khans, who said he wouldn't make a trade for Thomas with any of our young guys, including Bennett.

What's your plan for the PF spot? Getting Thomas upgrades the backcourt but also creates another hole in a front court that is already terribly thin. He's not happy with a backup role in Phoenix so why would he be ok with being the backup PG here in MN? I don't see how getting a guy guaranteed to be the backup PG is worth potentially giving up a starter when the backup isn't going to be ok with being a backup here either and will more than likely force his way out of here as he is trying to do in Phoenix now. Of course you think Bennett is a bad player so I can see why it is easy for you, but I'm more optimistic about Bennett's potential in another year or two. Our bench is already fine with Mo, Zach, Bazz, Bennett and Dieng. We need to upgrade our starting 5 as they won't be able to compete in the West as currently constructed. Zach, Bennett and Dieng may become worthy starters, but I still see that as a year or 2 away from happening.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I look at it as an upgrade in talent. Thomas is a really good NBA player right now capable of starting on 15 NBA teams imo, and is only 25 years old signed to a very reasonable deal. Bennett has a long ways to go of ever being a starting big. The upcoming draft is absolutely full of bigs too, and many of them I already like over Bennett. As for Young, I don't see him opting out. I believe him and his family will remain in MN another year, and then evaluate what their next move is. Makes sense as well considering what the cap might be in a year and a half.

Also, Thomas gets under 24 MPG in his current situation. THAT is why he's unhappy. He knew he'd be a backup as soon as he signed with the Suns, but 24 MPG? Ouch. Here, I.T. would have to get 25-30 mins a game. That's possible considering Martin's minutes need to be altered and Thomas is just flat out better than Williams, a rental. I'd have a Rubio/Martin starting duo with Thomas/LaVine coming off the bench, and I see no reason why Rubio/Thomas, Thomas/Martin couldn't be good for us either.

Rubio/Thomas
Martin/LaVine or Brewer
Wiggins/Muhammad
Young/2015 Selection (Karl Towns, Montrezl Harrell, Cliff Alexander, etc.)
Pekovic/Dieng

To me, it doesn't matter about position balance in this hypothetical scenario. The talent gained exceeds the talent lost, and it's not close. Keep in mind the per year salaries are relatively the same as well.

[bleedspeed]

I like Bennett, but IT is pretty damn good and we wouldn't fall off a cliff if Rubio was hurt again in the future.

As for the PF spot. Cam covered it. We could survive the year just fine with Adrien and Young. Then land a PF in the draft or bring over one of our euro guys.

[BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]]

I'm with Khans on this. Thomas isn't the move here. He wouldn't get 25 minutes a game with Rubio. He might be more talented than AB, but we should be looking to find a starter, not a backup. However I do like Cliff Alexander in the draft if we somehow start winning games this year and fall out of the top 5 or 6 pick. I'd like to see another year of Thad and AB at PF, if Thad opts out, then go after Cliff.

[kekgeek]

I'm with Khans on this. Thomas isn't the move here. He wouldn't get 25 minutes a game with Rubio. He might be more talented than AB, but we should be looking to find a starter, not a backup. However I do like Cliff Alexander in the draft if we somehow start winning games this year and fall out of the top 5 or 6 pick. I'd like to see another year of Thad and AB at PF, if Thad opts out, then go after Cliff.

I am so anti Cliff Alexander in terms of a NBA lottery prospect, I watch a lot of Kansas games because I am a pretty big fan and Cliff Alexander has sup par offensive game, a little above average rebounder and is an good defender, but all he does is dunk and they come off of assists, its not like he is beating guys on the block