Bud drawing some interest

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Why do this? I don't see the benefit for the Wolves if all we get is a 2nd rounder or expiring contract. It's just dumb to sell low like this unless the front office truly believes he'll never be fully healthy again (in which case I don't know why other teams would be interested).

[mjs34]

How is this selling low? Almost everyone believes he got a contract he didn't deserve. He was never a good defender, and now is a liability. He has zero lateral quickness, and that isn't likely to improve. Bud's only value from this point forward is as an expiring next season, but even that isn't worth much anymore.

[Coolbreeze44]

Why do this? I don't see the benefit for the Wolves if all we get is a 2nd rounder or expiring contract. It's just dumb to sell low like this unless the front office truly believes he'll never be fully healthy again (in which case I don't know why other teams would be interested).

Addition by subtraction my young scholar. Looking back it was a terrible acquisition for us. And now he costs too much and he is blocking the development of some our younger players. It would be a blessing to find a team to take him.

[60WinTim]

If Bud can stay healthy he is a decent player. I actually prefer him to Brewer, but there will always be a concern about Bud's health.

We have one too many wings, so somebody has to go. Milt talked about the need to examine depth at various positions when trimming the roster. Barea is a candidate, but his ability to play PG might keep him on the roster. Shabazz is a candidate, but unless Flip is blowing smoke, he seems intent on giving Shabazz a chance to develop. So then it comes down to Bud or Hummel. Bud can only be moved via a trade (they won't waive a player with a 5 mil player option next year!), whereas Hummel can merely be waived.

I like Bud and think he can contribute this year. But I can understand if he winds up being the odd man out.

[TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]]

Mixed Feelings if Bud goes. I like Bud if he's healthy, but someone has to go. I'd prefer it be Robbie, JJ or Shabazz, but am glad if it means we are keeping GR3.

[bleedspeed]

If you can unload him for an expiring I don't see the problem in doing it. I would love to see us add a long youngish PF to this team.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

I'm trying to understand some of the arguments for getting rid of Bud, especially if we get nothing substantial in return. I have read that we currently have 16 guaranteed contracts, and need to get rid of one. Is that true? I don't think we need to get rid of one, only that one of the guaranteed contracts will not be on the active roster. And this can be remedied by assigning one of our 16 players to the D-League (Hummel, GR3,Zach). Bud, when healthy, has proven himself to be a serviceable reserve, who moves well without the ball and can hit the three with more regularity than most of our other players. By all reports he has looked good in training camp, and the few minutes that I was able to watch him in our first game, he looked more like the pre-injury Bud. Certainly he can help us more this year off the bench than Robbie or Glen.

I understand that we still have a glut of wings and lack some depth at PF, so I would not be opposed to moving Bud for a reserve PF. This would still leave us with 16 guaranteed contacts, necessitating another move or a D-League demotion. Another possibility might be to move him for a draft pick, but I sense he wouldn't bring back more than a second rounder, and I would not be interested in that.

I'm frankly not too concerned with the glut of wings. It's a problem for Flip, but competition at the 2 and 3 is a good thing, and as inevitable injuries pop up (2 wings are currently injured), we will appreciate the depth. The 16 guaranteed contracts needs to be addressed, but trading Bud for a second rounder would rank behind other options for me. I would prefer these two options:

1) Outright release for JJ, or trade him for a second round pick

2) Assign GR3, Zach or Robbie to the D-League.

I see Bud as potentially too marketable commodity to just give him away.

[Coolbreeze44]

I don't see what anyone sees in Bud. His one redeeming skill, the ability to hit the 3, has been absent since he got here. All the pro Bud posts start with "Bud if healthy". Well he may start the year relatively healthy but he probably isn't going to remain so. And even a healthy Budinger isn't worth much IMO.

[60WinTim]

LST - only 15 guys can be under contract. We MUST waive someone, or make a trade where we take back one less player than we send out.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

I don't see what anyone sees in Bud. His one redeeming skill, the ability to hit the 3, has been absent since he got here. All the pro Bud posts start with "Bud if healthy". Well he may start the year relatively healthy but he probably isn't going to remain so. And even a healthy Budinger isn't worth much IMO.

I see Bud as very active without the ball, which is an important quality in a motion offense with an elite distributor like Rubio. He also is quite athletic, both in terms of leaping ability and lateral movement. His defense was terrible last year (it was clear that he tried to come back from knee surgery too early), but I was pleasantly surprised at his defense in the first preseason game...didn't look at all like the Bud from last year. Hollinger has actually referred to him as an above average defender. But his real value is on the offensive side of the ball. His ability to hit the three and finish at the rim made him quite productive pre-injury. He averaged almost 10 points a game in only 22 minutes with Houston, while shooting 40% on threes. Bud has been an injury washout the past couple years, but I don't think we know that he will continue to struggle with injuries. Yes, I will say it..."if healthy", Bud can be the kind of productive bench scorer this team lacked last year. Trade him, by all means, if we can get back something of value in return like a serviceable PF. Otherwise, I keep him to see if he can regain his Houston form. Reports from Mankato don't make this an unlikely prospect.