Targeting PF's

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longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
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Good point, cam, about the danger of Millsap walking. I would think we would have to lock him up before giving up Pek in a trade. I would be willing to throw a nice extension at him, and for the right money, he might be intrigued about playing with Rubio, Wiggins, LaVine et al. He is a true 2-way PF and incredibly durable, and even added the 3-point shot to his repertoire last year...hitting 36% while trying almost 6 times more than any previous season. He would look awfully good next to the athletic young team we are assembling.

And it seems like a good deal for Atlanta too. Horford's ability to play both the 4 and the 5 allows for a lot of flexibility using Pek, Horford, Mike Scott and Payne. Atlanta may be open to replacing the risk of Millsap walking with the certainty of Pek's contract. It's got some potential.
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Millsap would be a great fit but I don't know if Atlanta would be interested. Zach Lowe always refers to their plan to be Spurs-East valuing versatile, well rounded players with an offensive focus on ball movement and three point shooting. They're comfortable with Horford being the lone exception to the three point threats. I didn't see Scott at all last year so they may be more open to the idea but I think Millsap is exactly the type of player they want to keep around.
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I just don't think Dieng can be a starting center that can hold up against others centers. Gasol, Howard, Hibbert, Cousins, Drummund, Bogut.

These guys are just too big for Dieng to handle in the post. Being able to hold up against these guys, and shut down the paint with his shotblocking just seems like too big of a task for Dieng to hold up to. Pek might not block shots, but he can hold up on 1 on 1 defense against any center in the NBA,

I just think Dieng is much more effective against backups. Maybe in a few years if can bulk up and develop more, he can be a solid starter. No way he's ready by next year. Pek is by far the superior player
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Its hard for me to form much of an opinion on Bennett after his one lone rookie year playing along side a pg that really dominated the ball offensively.
Shouldnt we assume that Bennett would/could become a better player alongside Rubio rather than Irving?
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PorkChop wrote:Its hard for me to form much of an opinion on Bennett after his one lone rookie year playing along side a pg that really dominated the ball offensively.
Shouldnt we assume that Bennett would/could become a better player alongside Rubio rather than Irving?


We can assume most players are better alongside Rubio rather than Irving, but it doesn't mean they'll be good players overall.
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Camden0916 wrote:
PorkChop wrote:Its hard for me to form much of an opinion on Bennett after his one lone rookie year playing along side a pg that really dominated the ball offensively.
Shouldnt we assume that Bennett would/could become a better player alongside Rubio rather than Irving?


We can assume most players are better alongside Rubio rather than Irving, but it doesn't mean they'll be good players overall.


Ur right, but Im not willing to right off a guy altogether after playing his lone season on a bad team with a pg that seemed to care only about his own numbers. Most number 1 picks turn into pretty serviceable players. The line behind Darko is shorter than than the line behind Joe Smith.
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If Bennett had been the consensus No. 1 prospect, I'd put some value in that. Really, though, he was anywhere from 4-8 on most boards while being in a weak draft class.

Also, I'm not a big fan of PER, but he had the worst PER of any No. 1 overall pick. Yikes.
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Draftnet had Bennett rated 10th best in a weak draft class. I thought he was even a bigger surprise first pick than Kwame Brown or the Kandi man, and we know how their careers went. I just read a draft redraft that ranked him 25th and generously ahead of Shabazz who is ranked 27th. What makes Bennett real unattractive is the fact that he's very overpaid on a rookie deal. I'm no fan of Shabazz, but I like him better because of his contract. I think we flip Bennett while he still has some value and right now Philly seems to be offering the best deal for him.
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Bennett is almost like one of those guys in the draft that could have come out the previous year and then they got hurt like say Mitch McGary. McGary has more issues but I'll say this that year I valued him more than any player in the draft. I thought he had real potential to be a very versatile big.

Back to Bennett. Because of injuries and being fat we don't really have a good handle of what he is. Its potential good and bad like I said sort of like a draft pick.

Right now the draft wasn't that long ago, SL finished up and the season is around the corner so optimism is pretty high for just about any player unless you have a REALLY strong opinion like Cam does of Bennett or I have for Mayo. LOL I flip flop on how I feel on Bennett on a daily basis. Lol If I really think back to what I thought of him in the draft and then followed up with a rough rookie year I'd probably say flip him for anything decent in return. I'll be confident letting Flip and the Wolves to make the right decision on this one.
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TeamRicky wrote:Draftnet had Bennett rated 10th best in a weak draft class. I thought he was even a bigger surprise first pick than Kwame Brown or the Kandi man, and we know how their careers went. I just read a draft redraft that ranked him 25th and generously ahead of Shabazz who is ranked 27th. What makes Bennett real unattractive is the fact that he's very overpaid on a rookie deal. I'm no fan of Shabazz, but I like him better because of his contract. I think we flip Bennett while he still has some value and right now Philly seems to be offering the best deal for him.


Chad Ford had him 4th on his big board before the draft. A re-draft after 1 season is 2 seasons too early to be re-drafting. 1 year is just too early to declare what anyone is in this league. Some mention his stats, but who was the last number 1 to not play decent minutes as a rookie? What did he play, 13 MPG's. For a guy who has probably never played in such a diminished role, how is he supposed to be the perfect bench guy right off the bat as a rookie? Rookies are volume stat stuffers and need lots of minutes to get those stats. He never really got those minutes and when he did play significant minutes (someone posted previously) he put up respectable numbers.
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