It's TP Day!

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kekgeek wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:27 am
Q-is-here wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:13 am
60WinTim wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:55 am Dane Moore is reporting that the Wolves extending two-way QOs to both Garza and Ryan. Seems like a reasonable move.
I'm kind of scratching my head a bit with Matt Ryan, but then I look at our small forward depth with Prince gone and realize that we probably need a minimally viable bench option with some prior NBA experience and a decent 3 point shot.

Garza totally makes sense, but he really shouldn't spend time in the G-League unless it's meant to keep him in game shape. He'll learn nothing down there that he doesn't already know.
Couple of on the 2 way contracts.

They are all not gautanteed so there is no harm offering Ryan a contract. Super easy to cut Ryan and add another player on a 2 way if someone balls out this summer. There is no risk.

There are 3 2-way contracts this year.

New rule if you have only 14 rostered players this year, your 2-way guys can only be active for 90% of the games. It’s a small detail but it’s a detail
Matt Ryan isn’t gonna wow anyone unless you like shooting but he seems like a guy that can come in shoot the ball and be reasonably functional otherwise. Watching some highlights from the Q league Iit seems like he can make some decent passes when opportunity is available. He seems like one of those guys that knows how to play. He hasn’t played a ton in the NBA yet but keeping him on a 2-way feels like getting a solid guy that if you have to play him it wont hurt you. He turned 26 a couple months ago so it’s not like he has massive upside but some guys do bloom late finding their role in the league. Ryan could be one of those guys even if it’s just as a bench shooter.
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Jon K reports in his article in the athletic that the Wolves may have interest in resigning Prince for a lower number and that Prince was really connected to the team area and franchise. He said after Prince was let go maybe Prince will have no interest in coming back but I thought that was interesting.

He also said that bring back NAW was a high priority for the Wolves. That’s good to hear.
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Monster wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:43 am Jon K reports in his article in the athletic that the Wolves may have interest in resigning Prince for a lower number and that Prince was really connected to the team area and franchise. He said after Prince was let go maybe Prince will have no interest in coming back but I thought that was interesting.

He also said that bring back NAW was a high priority for the Wolves. That’s good to hear.
Interesting info. Jon K is highly reliable. So when he says the Wolves have make bringing NAW back a high priority, I believe it. For what it’s worth, Doogie agrees. :). Also interesting to see Jon K report that the Wolves might be interesting in bringing back Prince. Coming from anyone else, I’d blow it off. But coming from Jon K I’d say it’s not out of the question although unlikely.

Jevon Carter probably makes the most sense given the Wolves needs, salary constraints, AND the desire to bring back NAW. Carter shouldn’t cost much.
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They may wish to bring back NAW, but are they willing to put the 7 mil QO out there? I haven't heard anything about that. We should learn about it in the next few hours.
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Lipoli390 wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:08 pm
Monster wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:43 am Jon K reports in his article in the athletic that the Wolves may have interest in resigning Prince for a lower number and that Prince was really connected to the team area and franchise. He said after Prince was let go maybe Prince will have no interest in coming back but I thought that was interesting.

He also said that bring back NAW was a high priority for the Wolves. That’s good to hear.
Interesting info. Jon K is highly reliable. So when he says the Wolves have make bringing NAW back a high priority, I believe it. For what it’s worth, Doogie agrees. :). Also interesting to see Jon K report that the Wolves might be interesting in bringing back Prince. Coming from anyone else, I’d blow it off. But coming from Jon K I’d say it’s not out of the question although unlikely.

Jevon Carter probably makes the most sense given the Wolves needs, salary constraints, AND the desire to bring back NAW. Carter shouldn’t cost much.
I think Carter might get more than you think Lip but I’d guess if the awolves signed him he would cost less than what they did letting Prince go. If that’s the case that could be a solid move as it would give them more flexibility to add to the roster. The more I think about it Prince and Carter are probably not too far apart in terms of overal impact to a team depending on what you need. I wouldn’t be surprised if Carter is able to play as a SG (somewhat like Beverly) despite his height. I think he is a pretty good defender.
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It's a NO-NO to NAW-NAW. Not surprising. Full MLE is available to Wolves if they want to used it. And NAW can still sign with the Wolves if they reach an agreement.
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60WinTim wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 4:28 pm It's a NO-NO to NAW-NAW. Not surprising. Full MLE is available to Wolves if they want to used it. And NAW can still sign with the Wolves if they reach an agreement.
It was the right move and the one we all expected. TC retained his flexibility to go medium game hunting in the FA market, i.e., the flexibility to spend all or a large portion of the MLE on a free agent. He may or may not be able to re-sign NAW depending on how much space the Wolves have left under the luxury tax threshold. If TC ends up settling for a cheaper free agent that uses the BAE or a relatively small portion of the MLE, he’ll definitely have plenty of room to re-sign NAW. If TC can’t get any of the free agents he’s interested in, then he can re-sign both NAW and Prince. I think TC is handling things really well so far.
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There was likely a real scenario where NAW accepts that 7 million dollar QO which would throw a wrench into the idea of using the MLE. That suggests his market will be less annually. That could potentially change if cap space teams strike out on their first few options. It's a calculated risk.
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Lipoli390 wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 5:15 pm
60WinTim wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 4:28 pm It's a NO-NO to NAW-NAW. Not surprising. Full MLE is available to Wolves if they want to used it. And NAW can still sign with the Wolves if they reach an agreement.
It was the right move and the one we all expected. TC retained his flexibility to go medium game hunting in the FA market, i.e., the flexibility to spend all or a large portion of the MLE on a free agent. He may or may not be able to re-sign NAW depending on how much space the Wolves have left under the luxury tax threshold. If TC ends up settling for a cheaper free agent that uses the BAE or a relatively small portion of the MLE, he’ll definitely have plenty of room to re-sign NAW. If TC can’t get any of the free agents he’s interested in, then he can re-sign both NAW and Prince. I think TC is handling things really well so far.
The Wolves weren’t willing to pay Prince just over 7 million bucks and no team wanted to trade for him. Considering Prince is at this point a better player it’s pretty obvious to me the Wolves simply weren’t going to offer NAW a 7 million qualifying offer.

I would not be surprised if the Wolves and NAW have something pretty much worked out already they are just waiting to see who they can get in FA with the money from letting go of Prince and for how much. Maybe NAW is gonna test FA. I’m doubting he is going to find a much better landing spot than the Wolves but if he does that might be ok especially if it’s for a chunk of money.

One other thing about letting Prince go for a chance to sign other FAs is that now that Prince is out there he is another FA for a team to pick over someone else the Wolves may want more.
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Phenom wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 5:25 pm There was likely a real scenario where NAW accepts that 7 million dollar QO which would throw a wrench into the idea of using the MLE. That suggests his market will be less annually. That could potentially change if cap space teams strike out on their first few options. It's a calculated risk.
Exactly, Phenom. My sense is that NAW’s market value right now is around $4M per year. As you noted, that could change as free agency progresses. But as much as I like NAW, we should keep in mind that he has a career 39.7 FG percentage and a career 34% three-point percentage. He has a career 71.3% free throw shooter. His FG and 3-point shooting were much better last season than his career averages, but that’s a limited sample. I really liked his defense and his overall potential. But I’m sure other teams have him way down on their list of preferred free agents.
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