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Here’s a simple bilateral deal between the Wolves and Bulls

Wolves get: Vucevic and Ball
Bulls get: Randle (sign-and-trade) and Minott
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AussieWolf3 wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:12 pm
WildWolf2813 wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:49 am
AussieWolf3 wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:12 pm

I'm sure you're being flippant, but Edwards is worth significantly more than the number 1 overall pick
if he was asking what it would take for us, it would be Ant. If he's asking in general, Flagg is Nico's life jacket. The price is astronomical.
And what I'm saying is that Edwards is worth significantly more than Flagg straight up.

I don't know squat about Flagg as a player but no draft prospect is worth as much as a player, who by virtue of being voted to all NBA the last two years, is considered by the NBA media landscape to be at least the 15th best player in the league. He's widely regarded as one THE young players in the league, one who has a chance of being the best player in the entire league in the future.

That's just what he is based on 5 years of NBA experience. Ant would be on every top 10 list asking which single player would you build a franchise around- would Flagg be on any of them?

I'm not even being a homer about this, this is just his perception around the league. My personal opinion of Ant is that is ceiling is so limitless, he will never reach the skyhigh expectations people have set for him. I think there is pretty notable gap between his perception and his actual performance as a player, but there is no doubt in my mind that he is, at minimum, a top 15 player.

Flagg =/= Ant straight up.

So the price to get Flagg? Well if Dallas wants Ant then they better pony up otherwise I think the price is a lot lower.
Yeah, you're 100% right. Flagg would be lucky to sniff Ant's jockstrap on the NBA ladder.
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Lipoli390 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:11 pm Here’s a simple bilateral deal between the Wolves and Bulls

Wolves get: Vucevic and Ball
Bulls get: Randle (sign-and-trade) and Minott
I wouldn't mind that deal. I knew nothing of Randle before he got here, and his family seems to enjoy it here so sucks to shuttle him off again, but alas it is a business. Vucevic provides a much needed backup C who provides a different look, Ball could be the PG we need or absolutely nothing, Minott is whatever. Naz gets his coveted starting PF spot. I like it.
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TheFuture wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:51 pm
Lipoli390 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:11 pm Here’s a simple bilateral deal between the Wolves and Bulls

Wolves get: Vucevic and Ball
Bulls get: Randle (sign-and-trade) and Minott
I wouldn't mind that deal. I knew nothing of Randle before he got here, and his family seems to enjoy it here so sucks to shuttle him off again, but alas it is a business. Vucevic provides a much needed backup C who provides a different look, Ball could be the PG we need or absolutely nothing, Minott is whatever. Naz gets his coveted starting PF spot. I like it.
I don't get why the Bulls do this deal and if they did I doubt they would want to sign Randle for more than this year. After this season they could have a ton of cap space and they can sign whoever they can get or resign the guys they want maybe even Randle. Plus Randle has to agree to these theoretical deals. The Bulls have a bunch of Bigs though.
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Lipoli390 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:11 pm Here’s a simple bilateral deal between the Wolves and Bulls

Wolves get: Vucevic and Ball
Bulls get: Randle (sign-and-trade) and Minott
No thanks. Vuc is a terrible defender, can’t play with Rudy. Ball has played 32 games the last 3 years. Not the biggest Randle guy but he is still capable being the second best player on a WCF team.
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kekgeek wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:36 pm
Lipoli390 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:11 pm Here’s a simple bilateral deal between the Wolves and Bulls

Wolves get: Vucevic and Ball
Bulls get: Randle (sign-and-trade) and Minott
No thanks. Vuc is a terrible defender, can’t play with Rudy. Ball has played 32 games the last 3 years. Not the biggest Randle guy but he is still capable being the second best player on a WCF team.
Vuc is better than Randle, so sign me up. He's a higher IQ player and much more consistent offensive player. He doesn't turn the ball over like Randle who is unplayable vs OKC. He is an excellent screener too. He's also a better defender in paint than Naz or Randle. His biggest knock is slow feet, but he's fundamentally sound. He's older but heck he should age well since he doesn't have much injury history and never relied on athleticism. He also makes 10 M less. Give me Vooch any day over Randle. I love Lonzo too, and if he's healthy for playoffs he is golden.
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I know this is probably unrealistic, but apparently Toronto is open to trading Scottie Barnes and doesn't he feel like the perfect fit for this team?

Smart player, not ball dominant, best as a secondary scorer, good handles for his position and a great defender.

Not sure what it would take but he just screams up and coming championship caliber player
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kekgeek wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:36 pm
Lipoli390 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:11 pm Here’s a simple bilateral deal between the Wolves and Bulls

Wolves get: Vucevic and Ball
Bulls get: Randle (sign-and-trade) and Minott
No thanks. Vuc is a terrible defender, can’t play with Rudy. Ball has played 32 games the last 3 years. Not the biggest Randle guy but he is still capable being the second best player on a WCF team.
I see Vic as a backup for Rudy, not playing alongside him. I think Randle is definitely better than Vuc - and younger. That’s why I think the Bulls would be interested. We’d get a true center to back up Rudy for less money than we’ll have to pay Randle and Lonzo on a fairly reasonable 1-year deal. Lonzo’s a risk based on his health, but if his knee is OK, he’d be a plus for us next season and a good bridge to Dilly.

My starting premise for this deal, from the Wolves perspective, is that we need to keep Naz and I don’t see that happening if we sign Randle to a multi-year deal. Naz won’t stay here if it means playing behind Randle for several years. That means we need to move Randle unless he simply exercises his one-year option, in which case I’d be fine keeping him if we can get a really good deal for him.
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kekgeek wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:36 pm
Lipoli390 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:11 pm Here’s a simple bilateral deal between the Wolves and Bulls

Wolves get: Vucevic and Ball
Bulls get: Randle (sign-and-trade) and Minott
No thanks. Vuc is a terrible defender, can’t play with Rudy. Ball has played 32 games the last 3 years. Not the biggest Randle guy but he is still capable being the second best player on a WCF team.
As I understand it, we would be trading a starting PF who averaged 19/7/5 last season for a backup center to Rudy and a PG who is almost always injured. Also no thanks.
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FNG wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:18 pm
kekgeek wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:36 pm
Lipoli390 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:11 pm Here’s a simple bilateral deal between the Wolves and Bulls

Wolves get: Vucevic and Ball
Bulls get: Randle (sign-and-trade) and Minott
No thanks. Vuc is a terrible defender, can’t play with Rudy. Ball has played 32 games the last 3 years. Not the biggest Randle guy but he is still capable being the second best player on a WCF team.
As I understand it, we would be trading a starting PF who averaged 19/7/5 last season for a backup center to Rudy and a PG who is almost always injured. Also no thanks.
I probably wouldn’t do this deal either although I’d be tempted. But I think it’s probably there for us if we want it. If I were TC, I’d think about Randle as a potential part of a package for Derrick White. But if Lonzo Ball is back to being the player he was before his knee problem then I think this would a very good deal for the Wolves.
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